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Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

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52% of their business in 2018 came directly from China. I suspect China also supported them with additional spending in 2019 (for this headline). 11% of their business came from other south pacific countries (which they have a large stake in) 6% from the Americas. 30% of their revenue came from Europe-Africa-Middle East, which is the real "battle ground" for them. https://www.huawei.com/us/press-events/annual-report/…

Yes, I'll be really interested to see what happens in Europe in particular as the US has longer term relationships with governments and others there and you would think this would lead to fewer contracts (at least on the govt/large company front). That said, many of my colleagues in Europe even though they know about Huawei's potential transfer of data to China and are no fans of the Chinese government still choose their phones based on price and many of the countries I visit (Kyiv, France, etc.) have nice Huawei showrooms and seem to be doing good business.

When asking colleagues about why they would choose Huawei aside from price (all of them could afford Apple if they wanted) the common response I got was that everyone is spying on everyone anyways and usually a joke about is China really any worse than the U.S.

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

It would have been nice to have US manufacturer of Android phones, not only iOS devices. Sadly, no such thing existed (Google Pixel is not what I meant).

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

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Any sources on this?

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

Just wondering, what country is this?

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

China benefits from conflict with America. It foments exactly this kind of reactionary nationalism.

The US during the Cold War could rally around large national programs (e.g. space race) and wars (e.g. Vietnam) because there was a foreign enemy. That enemy could be foreign actor (Russia) or an idea (communism) or a person (Saddam, for example.)

The spirit of "do your part" is deeply appealing to our core desire to form tribe. The strongest sense of Us comes from a Them.

Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

I live in India and not a big fan of China but I purchased a Huawei phone recently. I think Huwei benefited from the publicity they got through US campaign against them.

I was wondering whether it would be a benefit for them to be knocked by the American govt in some places. I guessed for sure in the ME but I'm a bit surprised about India, I would have figured they would be more on the US side. Or is it that they just benefited from increased name recognition rather than name recognition tied to being harried by the US

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That's pretty amazing, I feel like sanctioning as a tool will fall apart pretty soon and this is a validation of that

Sanctions work best as a threat in theory, rather than a actual threat. They do work, just look at Iran. It has to be a United front though

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

China benefits from conflict with America. It foments exactly this kind of reactionary nationalism. The US during the Cold War could rally around large national programs (e.g. space race) and wars (e.g. Vietnam) because there was a foreign enemy. That enemy could be foreign actor (Russia) or an idea (communism) or a person (Saddam, for example.) The spirit of "do your part" is deeply appealing to our core desire to f…

So does US also similarly benefit from having this conflict with China? Seems like people don't really care about it as much as they do about the opposing party.
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