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Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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That's pretty amazing, I feel like sanctioning as a tool will fall apart pretty soon and this is a validation of that

Sanctions are a means to enforce either one nation's will--or the standards of the global community--without resorting to open war. Let us hope sanctions don't fall apart as a tool, lest we end up with a much less pleasant tool: war.

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Re: Huawei’s Revenue Hits Record $122B in 2019 Despite U.S. Campaign

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52% of their business in 2018 came directly from China. I suspect China also supported them with additional spending in 2019 (for this headline). 11% of their business came from other south pacific countries (which they have a large stake in) 6% from the Americas. 30% of their revenue came from Europe-Africa-Middle East, which is the real "battle ground" for them. https://www.huawei.com/us/press-events/annual-report/…

Yes, I'll be really interested to see what happens in Europe in particular as the US has longer term relationships with governments and others there and you would think this would lead to fewer contracts (at least on the govt/large company front). That said, many of my colleagues in Europe even though they know about Huawei's potential transfer of data to China and are no fans of the Chinese government still choose t…

> joke about is China really any worse than the U.S.

Most people of my generation didn’t see that much of the cold war but still understood what was done during that time on both side, and that from very early in their life.

A lot of people are not joking when they say they don’t trust the US, and tend to pay more attention to the control the US has on the tech and media sectors, even if the US is a long time ally.

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

Just wondering, what country is this?

Only country that fits the description of Chinese dominated but not Chinese is Singapore.

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

China benefits from conflict with America. It foments exactly this kind of reactionary nationalism. The US during the Cold War could rally around large national programs (e.g. space race) and wars (e.g. Vietnam) because there was a foreign enemy. That enemy could be foreign actor (Russia) or an idea (communism) or a person (Saddam, for example.) The spirit of "do your part" is deeply appealing to our core desire to f…

Chinese nationalism is deeply engrained in their belief system. It's also taught from early ages as well.

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

> I live in a Chinese dominated country.

Like some other commenters, I'd also like to know which this mythical "chinese dominated country" is. Why not just say I'm from X, rather than being so cryptic? So many anecdotal propaganda start off with such vague comments.

> I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold.

What "absurd" nationalistic views do they hold that you or anyone else doesn't hold? I think everyone, including you, hold the same absurd nationalist views. I suspect that's why you wrote such a strange anti-chinese comment.

> For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made.

That's it? In a trade war with the US, "nationalistics" chinese are buying chinese products? In the US, we had "buy american" for decades - even without the trade war.

> "US is evil, I should support China at such times!"

You mean during a US led trade war against china, the chinese are calling the US evil and supporting their own nation? Do you think they should support the US?

> This was very noticeable when Huawei's CFO was arrested. I tried to understand why, so I threw many arguments at them such as Huawei was actually caught sending data back to 3rd party servers in China ...

But your arguments had nothing to do with the CFO's arrest. The CFO was arrested because she allegedly lied to banks in order to evade sanctions on Iran and trade with them.

There are so many vague "anecdotal" anti-chinese propaganda all over social media that I'm having a hard time believing its not coordinated in some manner.

You are trying to make your "chinese" collegues look bad but they are acting like every person would. I'm sure if your "chinese dominated country" were being attacked with a trade war, you'd side with your own nation right?

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I live in a Chinese dominated country. I can tell you this is because of the absurd nationalistic view that the Chinese hold. For example, I know atleast 5 co-workers who sold their iPhones to get a Huawei when the sanction was made. Part of the reason was Huawei phones' prices (even new ones) drastically dropped when the announcement of no more Android support was made, so these guys (and girls) got it at a super go…

Just know that, if people upvote you, it's not because they think: "I think this constitutes a plausible explanation of the revenue increase being reported on", it's because they think: "I like the fact that this portrayal makes this outgroup of mine look bad".
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