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36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

gexcolo wrote: post #50

I'm the author of this post. What people who are unaware of the layout of the congress center don't realize is that the video starts when we were leaving. The door "inside" is actually to get "outside". I was told to leave in 5 minutes, I stayed where I was maybe 2 minutes and started walking (I'm not leaving anything out, it was just more of the first audio recording), and then was prevented from leaving the event b…

better context is this tweet: https://twitter.com/_vecna/status/1211593823866019841

allowing somebody at CCC who hosts and profits from sites like hitler.rocks, nigger.rs, pro-rape and other hate-speech domains can't be tolerated.

edit: His twitter feed is racist drivel too. If you can please also report this account to twitter: https://twitter.com/gexcolo

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

Jamesbeam wrote: post #64
eqvinox wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may have read me arguing the CCC side in other posts in this thread, but I'd also like to reach out to you and make clear that I very much give you the benefit of the doubt, particularly I'm not gonna assume you _intentionally_ did something. What's driving my opinion is that an eviction at CCC doesn't just happen because a single person is offended by something you did. There's a whole bunch of people involved i…

I don't want to judge who is right and who is wrong in this. Probably everyone involved could have prevented the final outcome of this. But I think you are wrong with your assumption about the eviction and some other stuff. Listening to the Audio before the whole incident it is basically said that VC needs to leave the venue immediately, and that they do not want to argue this any further with VC and he can call whoe…

this individual shouldn't be allowed in the congress and banned for life. please consider reporting him to twitter too for all the racist garbage he spews https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21914674

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by DyslexicAtheist »

glogla wrote: post #23

Does anyone see the alleged political reason in the post? The only thing I seem to see is that he was asked not to come without a message or something, and now got kicked out. Is that a political thing?

this individual shouldn't be allowed in the congress and banned for life. please consider reporting him to twitter too for all the racist garbage he spews https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21914674

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by dtornabene »

scurvy wrote: post #38
eqvinox wrote: post #9

Yeah, dude, posting a video of you getting kicked out primarily hints that you were being an idiot of some kind. Occam's razor, simplest explanation and whatnot. Feel free and try to elaborate / prove otherwise. Also, FYI, CCC team has "Hausrecht" and if they tell you to leave you legally need to leave and they're well within rights to evict you.

IANAL, but you can't physically eject someone from a space in most civilized countries even if they're doing something wrong. Call the polizei/police. There are exceptions for immediate threat to life, but you can't go wild and start kicking and punching someone for trespassing. That's assault and the video footage is possible evidence that could lead to charges. I was a bouncer in a previous life, and there were ver…

yes, you can. Its called being a bouncer. I did it for 15 years. You don't kick and punch, and the video show quite clearly that the staff were simply trying to eject him.

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by [deleted] »

dtornabene wrote: post #74
scurvy wrote: post #38

Earlier quoted context omitted.

IANAL, but you can't physically eject someone from a space in most civilized countries even if they're doing something wrong. Call the polizei/police. There are exceptions for immediate threat to life, but you can't go wild and start kicking and punching someone for trespassing. That's assault and the video footage is possible evidence that could lead to charges. I was a bouncer in a previous life, and there were ver…

yes, you can. Its called being a bouncer. I did it for 15 years. You don't kick and punch, and the video show quite clearly that the staff were simply trying to eject him.

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Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

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Post by lazyjones »

DyslexicAtheist wrote: post #71
gexcolo wrote: post #50

I'm the author of this post. What people who are unaware of the layout of the congress center don't realize is that the video starts when we were leaving. The door "inside" is actually to get "outside". I was told to leave in 5 minutes, I stayed where I was maybe 2 minutes and started walking (I'm not leaving anything out, it was just more of the first audio recording), and then was prevented from leaving the event b…

better context is this tweet: https://twitter.com/_vecna/status/1211593823866019841 allowing somebody at CCC who hosts and profits from sites like hitler.rocks, nigger.rs, pro-rape and other hate-speech domains can't be tolerated. edit: His twitter feed is racist drivel too. If you can please also report this account to twitter: https://twitter.com/gexcolo

And this is one situation where you can easily distinguish mature, liberal people from hateful radical anarchists. I know which side I am on, I detest political violence and those who condone it.

Re: 36C3 Staff Assaulted Me for Political Reasons

#77

Post by stkdump »

Jamesbeam wrote: post #64
eqvinox wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You may have read me arguing the CCC side in other posts in this thread, but I'd also like to reach out to you and make clear that I very much give you the benefit of the doubt, particularly I'm not gonna assume you _intentionally_ did something. What's driving my opinion is that an eviction at CCC doesn't just happen because a single person is offended by something you did. There's a whole bunch of people involved i…

I don't want to judge who is right and who is wrong in this. Probably everyone involved could have prevented the final outcome of this. But I think you are wrong with your assumption about the eviction and some other stuff. Listening to the Audio before the whole incident it is basically said that VC needs to leave the venue immediately, and that they do not want to argue this any further with VC and he can call whoe…

When "Antifa thugs" call for the police in Saxony, you can be sure that whoever they are dealing with acted very bad.
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