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Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

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Post by dang »

The_rationalist wrote: post #66
dang wrote: post #32

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please stop posting unsubstantive comments to Hacker News? You've done it quite a bit and we're trying for more substance here.

Could you please not have a double standard and flag gamesbrainiac comment too? I'm not strongly against flagging my comment, it's effectively void of substance (zero meaning). But if you flag zero meaning comments, you should even more flag negative meaning comments. By that I mean flagging most of logical fallacies, bullshits, cargo cults, echo chambers, and therefore half of comments on A(G)I topics. By that I mea…

I understand the desire for consistency, but moderation can't be consistent because we don't see everything that gets posted here. Also, the comment you mention didn't exist when I replied to you.

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#82

Post by jacquesm »

Lammy wrote: post #64
jacquesm wrote: post #59

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That makes good sense. Tagging consistency was a nightmare to get right and even though we did an ok job at it I was never 100% satisfied. If you want I can probably still dig up our database somewhere as a mysql dump and get it over to you. There might be something useful in there.

If it's not too much trouble, yes please :) I was toying with reading/writing my EAC database file a few months ago, and this news reinvigorated my interest in getting something nice and local running to serve all my new and (many) old clients.

Where would I send it?

my email jacques@modularcompany.com

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

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Post by Lammy »

jacquesm wrote: post #82
Lammy wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's not too much trouble, yes please :) I was toying with reading/writing my EAC database file a few months ago, and this news reinvigorated my interest in getting something nice and local running to serve all my new and (many) old clients.

Where would I send it? my email jacques@modularcompany.com

I e-mailed you. Thanks!

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

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Post by pontifier »

jacquesm wrote: post #82
Lammy wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If it's not too much trouble, yes please :) I was toying with reading/writing my EAC database file a few months ago, and this news reinvigorated my interest in getting something nice and local running to serve all my new and (many) old clients.

Where would I send it? my email jacques@modularcompany.com

Count me in too!

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#85

Post by The_rationalist »

dang wrote: post #81
The_rationalist wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Could you please not have a double standard and flag gamesbrainiac comment too? I'm not strongly against flagging my comment, it's effectively void of substance (zero meaning). But if you flag zero meaning comments, you should even more flag negative meaning comments. By that I mean flagging most of logical fallacies, bullshits, cargo cults, echo chambers, and therefore half of comments on A(G)I topics. By that I mea…

I understand the desire for consistency, but moderation can't be consistent because we don't see everything that gets posted here. Also, the comment you mention didn't exist when I replied to you.

Make sense, what do you think about negative meaning comments ?

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

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Post by pontifier »

Lammy wrote: post #63
jmillikin wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Archaic" because FreeDB has been obsolete for ... 10 years or so? Quite a long time at any rate. MusicBrainz and Discogs are the contemporary equivalents, with MB having (in my opinion) higher quality data, and Discogs having better coverage of obscure Western releases.

MusicBrainz and Discogs are wonderful resources, but I consider them complementary to FreeDB more than equivalent. They are based around the concept of a single canonical "correct" entry for everything, and their tag formatting guidelines are fundamentally at odds with many of my personal tagging preferences. I do love the formatting and structure of MB's Style Guidelines page, but it goes somewhere I dislike from th…

I'm currently looking at becoming caretaker for a large number of people's music collections soon. I hear what you're saying about music being too important to settle for 99%. Hopefully I'll get things right enough.

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

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Post by creeble »

Ug, I'm late to this discussion, but I can't find anything in the Musicbrainz.org documentation that provides the same access / results as FreeDB.

In other words, from a "discid" (in Musicbrainz format or FreeDB format or otherwise), I want artist, album, and track titles, and optimally cover artwork.

Does anyone know how to get that, in JSON or XML format, from Musicbrainz?

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

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Post by creeble »

creeble wrote: post #87

Ug, I'm late to this discussion, but I can't find anything in the Musicbrainz.org documentation that provides the same access / results as FreeDB. In other words, from a "discid" (in Musicbrainz format or FreeDB format or otherwise), I want artist, album, and track titles, and optimally cover artwork. Does anyone know how to get that, in JSON or XML format, from Musicbrainz?

Okay, to answer my own question:

https://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/discid/I5l9cCSFccLKFEKS.7wqSZAo...

will give you a list of "releases" for that discid. Use the release ID in this endpoint, with the included parameters:

https://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/release/8e061dc4-790e-4587-ba53...

and you'll get the track data. Not quite sure how to get the album art yet, but should follow.

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

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Post by Freso »

creeble wrote: post #88
creeble wrote: post #87

Ug, I'm late to this discussion, but I can't find anything in the Musicbrainz.org documentation that provides the same access / results as FreeDB. In other words, from a "discid" (in Musicbrainz format or FreeDB format or otherwise), I want artist, album, and track titles, and optimally cover artwork. Does anyone know how to get that, in JSON or XML format, from Musicbrainz?

Okay, to answer my own question: https://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/discid/I5l9cCSFccLKFEKS.7wqSZAo... will give you a list of "releases" for that discid. Use the release ID in this endpoint, with the included parameters: https://musicbrainz.org/ws/2/release/8e061dc4-790e-4587-ba53... and you'll get the track data. Not quite sure how to get the album art yet, but should follow.

Cover art, when available, is via the Cover Art Archive API: https://coverartarchive.org/api

(The Release lookup has a `cover-art-archive` JSON object which contains information about what can be fetched from CAA.)

Re: FreeDB Is Shutting Down

#90

Post by Freso »

Lammy wrote: post #63
jmillikin wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Archaic" because FreeDB has been obsolete for ... 10 years or so? Quite a long time at any rate. MusicBrainz and Discogs are the contemporary equivalents, with MB having (in my opinion) higher quality data, and Discogs having better coverage of obscure Western releases.

MusicBrainz and Discogs are wonderful resources, but I consider them complementary to FreeDB more than equivalent. They are based around the concept of a single canonical "correct" entry for everything, and their tag formatting guidelines are fundamentally at odds with many of my personal tagging preferences. I do love the formatting and structure of MB's Style Guidelines page, but it goes somewhere I dislike from th…

> FreeDB avoids this problem by supporting multiple entries for any given disc.

FWIW, something somewhat similar to this will Soon™ be part of MusicBrainz too: https://tickets.metabrainz.org/browse/MBS-4501 – you might want to read through there and maybe even put your own thoughts about what it can be used for in a comment on that ticket.

> MB […] used to have rules specifically banning anything except Camel Cased English Literary Title style

Just out of curiosity: When was this? I’ve been involved with MusicBrainz since summer of 2006 (ie., for over 10 years) and this hasn’t been the case for as long as I’ve been around.

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