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Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by archi42 »

Scoundreller wrote: post #442
henrikschroder wrote: post #351

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> but I think driving style can make manuals the winner. Everything you can do, a machine can do better.

In theory. But I don’t have a much faith in auto transmissions (effectively a mechanical computer that has to handle many scenarios, probably none perfectly).

My hybrid's auto actually does a pretty good job (2013 V60 D6; diesel front, electric rear axle). And it's a simple 6 gear box, not a fancy 8 or 11 gear twin clutch. Picks a good gear, no hysteresis and the overall control intelligence seems to properly decide when to enter neutral and recuperate (on wildly shifting loads [steep uphill slopes] that "overall intelligence" sometimes tends to be too aggressive with shutting down the diesel altogether, but that's not the transmissions fault).

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by 3guk »

I've listed all of the Telemetry servers that I could find my set connecting to should any of you wish to block them on your local network. https://factory-reset.com/wiki/Samsung_Telemetry_Servers

If you guys notice any others, let me know and I can update the list.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by asiachick »

I think I wish there was a fine per customer per data item when a data leak happens. That it was 3x if it is discovered the company didn't report it in a timely manner and that it was high enough that companies would be reluctant to collect the data in the first place.

not sure what unintended consequences there would be.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by 3guk »

mlacks wrote: post #273

The answer to connected TVs is commercial display. These are "dumb TVs" that you've seen 10K times at airports manufactured by the usual suspects such as Sony, NEC, LG, and yes - even Samsung. They are offered in 4K, have plenty of ports, and are price competitive to smart TVs https://www.necdisplay.com/category?category=displays#1 https://pro.sony/en_GB/products/small-displays

As someone who installs commercial displays, I wouldn't quite call them "price competitive" in many cases, the commercial displays cost considerably more than a domestic set with a somewhat equivalent feature set.

Surely the answer is just not connecting your set to the internet in the first place, and if you absolutely must have Apps or internet connected features, then something like an AppleTV (Apple being at least vaguely privacy focused), would be ideal ?

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by archi42 »

ficklepickle wrote: post #494
Waterluvian wrote: post #476

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We absolutely need consumer protection laws for this. The problem is that capitalism doesn't permit companies to simply succeed by being profitable. They must grow too. So the people who run the business are ultimately forced to squeeze every conceivable revenue stream from their products. The March towards forced online IoT and printer ink cartridge obsolescence models for everything is inevitable. Appliances used t…

Infinite expansion with finite resources. What could go wrong?

"We'll have it figured out before we run out of resources" - every generation, forever

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by archi42 »

Hnrobert42 wrote: post #590
mark-r wrote: post #561

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When the value of the data they mine from you becomes worth more than the incremental cost, it will become ubiquitous and you won't have a choice. Adding RF insulation in your walls might be effective, but I think you will come to regret not being able to get or make phone calls in your home.

Who makes phone calls anymore? Plus, you could either get a landline, VoIP phone, or soft client VoIP for your cell. I’m curious if there is some kind of paint we can use to block transmission. Too bad lead is so bad for you.

Actually, "voice over WiFi" is a thing. Seems like it uses the SIM for auth, but transmits the voice data via IP (similar to VoLTE).

I think tin foil in the walls could do the trick, but I'd be wary of potential moisture build up. I'd stay with "just buy stuff that doesn't phone home".

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by archi42 »

ravenstine wrote: post #586
ekianjo wrote: post #584

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Just buy a projector. Those have none of the connectivity features TV advertize nowadays and size does matter for displays.

Surely people can just buy used dumb-TVs? I have a much older LCD TV(admittedly Samsung, but it was a gift) from around 2011, no smart features, but it's still perfectly good and works with all my HDMI devices. If there are millions ditching their dumb-TVs for Telescreens, that must mean that there are plenty of dumb-TVs for sale on eBay and Craigslist.

But those eventually break and the supply dries up. Not all panels are equal, so good luck finding a decent 2019 era 4k HDR monitor in 2029 or 2034. If the LCD and control board don't give up, you'll be swapping LEDs, caps and FETs sooner or later. And that's assuming HDMI will not be superseded.

So, let's hope that free-market thing actually works and at some point a "dumb display" product will be available again.

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Post by click_enter »

jp555 wrote: post #386
joezydeco wrote: post #313

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If you're getting $26 from the ad agencies, then it's $-1 on your BOM. Done deal.

But is individual data worth that much? I mean isn’t “my” Facebook data is worth less than $0.20US/year?

"individual data" is what makes all the difference here. Once you have the individual tv viewership data you can build products like - - tv to digital re-targetting - tv ad to actual sale/visit attribution - ad campaign performance analytics - in-tv targetted ads - show/ad ratings - and many more reports

you can sell these products to broadcasters, brands, ad agencies, tv show producers and even to election campaigns !!

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Post by henrikschroder »

archi42 wrote: post #621
Scoundreller wrote: post #442

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In theory. But I don’t have a much faith in auto transmissions (effectively a mechanical computer that has to handle many scenarios, probably none perfectly).

My hybrid's auto actually does a pretty good job (2013 V60 D6; diesel front, electric rear axle). And it's a simple 6 gear box, not a fancy 8 or 11 gear twin clutch. Picks a good gear, no hysteresis and the overall control intelligence seems to properly decide when to enter neutral and recuperate (on wildly shifting loads [steep uphill slopes] that "overall intelligence" sometimes tends to be too aggressive with shut…

Most importantly: Your gearbox works the same regardless of your state of mind, regardless of you caring about mpg or not, regardless of you being focused on driving or not. It will just deliver.

Sure, a good driver in the manual version of a car might achieve better mpg than the auto version, but that requires skill and focus and effort. And realistically, a human driver won't deliver 100% of the time, so the auto version will beat the manual version over the long haul, no matter the driver.

Re: Samsung TVs May Upload Screenshots for Automatic Content Recognition

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Post by Cougher »

giancarlostoro wrote: post #50
welly wrote: post #33

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The Internet needs to be better than being almost entirely propped up by the advertising industry. Surely even they know their day will come. It will, won't it?

Somehow it will. Not sure when. I tire of Amazon giving me ads to things I already bought. Like someone told me they bought something you usually only buy one of like... Random example: a new toilet or something... No I dont need another one the replacement one was fine enough thank you!

What's worse is the blatent lie of "frequently bought together", where they tell you that people frequently buy three different models of the same item, often different brands. It's like, Amazon thinks that people are completely gullible idiots. Then again . . .
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