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Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by gamblor956 »

alexandros wrote: post #138
threeseed wrote: post #90

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Not sure what you are talking about. VW Group has already released a car which is in the hands of customers today i.e. Porsche Taycan. And there are plenty of EV cars today from the big auto manufacturers e.g. Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Some of which even outsell all Tesla cars in a country or two. And it's hilarious to see you go on about car companies pre-announcing products when Tesla did exactly the same with the Cyber…

The Taycan is not yet released, and not slated to until "Spring/Summer 2020". And since that's a lot of time till then, it might slip more. https://insideevs.com/news/383171/porsche-taycan-delivery-de...

There are Taycans driving around in LA right now...

Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by gamblor956 »

amayne wrote: post #99
varjag wrote: post #93

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Still better than 2900 million and 0 cars tho?

Not to mention that at this same point 10 years into Tesla’s existence the Model S was in full production of 1,000 cars a week and Motor Trend Car of the Year.

Global sales of the Model S are 250,000 to date, so Tesla definitely wasn't making 1000 of them back in 2013, when it was their only model.

It took them 2.5 years to go from making 2 dozen cars per week to 1000 per week.

Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by gamblor956 »

unlinked_dll wrote: post #139
jfim wrote: post #55

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It's manufacturing, not software. While one can produce one million copies of a binary for cheap and no lead time, producing one million physical objects requires setting up production lines, quality control checks, rework stations, warehousing, supply chains and controls, and so on.

I work in hardware currently. Failing to bring a product to market in a decade is a failure. Even for autos, you need to ship product eventually.

You clearly don't work in automobiles, where it can take almost a decade for a model to go from inspiration to design to production.

Tesla tried to rush things, and they're still trying to fix all the bugs and problems from rushing into production.

Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by gamblor956 »

_ea1k wrote: post #115
x3haloed wrote: post #56

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Right. You tell me which truck you'd rather load boxes and furniture into. https://www.geek.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/12/TeslaElectri...

The issue is that the comparison is to the Rivian which only has a 4.5 ft bed. The rear 4.5 feet of the Cybertruck isn't too hard to access, its the front 2 feet that is problematic. The rivian doesn't have that feature.

For loading furniture, the rear of the Cybertruck is extremely difficult to access, because you can only access it from the rear of the vehicle.

Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by gamblor956 »

fastball wrote: post #97
thdrdt wrote: post #33

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When it comes to utility design the Rivian is far far ahead. It's not about more conventional but about more convenient. One example: you cannot throw stuff in the back of the Tesla from the side. And when it comes to towing: nobody will use an electric vehicle yet. You can buy a gas truck for half the price with the same towing capacity. A gas truck with the same price as the Tesla will have twice the towing capacit…

Have you owned a truck? How often are you throwing things into the bed from the side? What are these things?

Yes, literally all the time.

Sports gear, camping equipment, portable chairs, anything soft that can go on top of other luggage, all go over the side, over the back, however it's most convenient.

More importantly though, is that a lot of this gear is removed from the truck over the side, especially at the beach or on the mountain or at a trailhead, where I'm parallel-parked and can't easily remove items out of the back.

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Post by hurricanetc »

threeseed wrote: post #90
hourislate wrote: post #66

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I've stopped paying attention to all these auto manufactures like Rivian, VW, etc. All they do is keep announcing how they are going to take the industry by storm but yet never release a product or are working on it. Meanwhile Tesla pumps out a few thousand vehicles a month and the media makes it sound like it in big trouble. Ford, GM, VW are junk.I wouldn't buy any of their vehicles ICE or Electric. I worked for For…

Not sure what you are talking about. VW Group has already released a car which is in the hands of customers today i.e. Porsche Taycan. And there are plenty of EV cars today from the big auto manufacturers e.g. Audi, BMW, Mercedes. Some of which even outsell all Tesla cars in a country or two. And it's hilarious to see you go on about car companies pre-announcing products when Tesla did exactly the same with the Cyber…

The Taycan is a dreadful EV. Inferior to the Model S in nearly every way and at double the cost.

Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by hurricanetc »

jakelazaroff wrote: post #9

> On Monday, Rivian announced it had raised $1.3 billion in its fourth funding round of the year, led by T. Rowe Price, bringing its total for 2019 to nearly $2.9 billion. > Rivian has been quietly developing vehicles for a decade, but it seized the industry’s attention in late 2018, when it unveiled a pair of eye-catching, high-end electric trucks. Rivian raised $2.9 billion over four funding rounds in the span of o…

They actually do have lots of sales. Rivian is making a “skate” that is everything but the body of the car. Bolt on the body and you have an EV. Amazon and Ford have made large orders.

Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by taneq »

Animats wrote: post #30
taneq wrote: post #3

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I remember reading in popular Mechanics about a skateboard design from GM back when the EV1 was new.

Oh, the GM "Autonomy" prototype, 2002.[1] They took that too far; you could swap bodies on the car in a few minutes. Many cars are built on platforms shared between multiple body styles. GM was notorious for this. There were far fewer platforms than models. [1] http://www.adrianchernoff.com/project/autonomy/

That's the one!

Re: Rivian's platform approach to electric vehicles helped it raise $3B this year

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Post by x3haloed »

crca wrote: post #125
luckydata wrote: post #83

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the problem with the Cybertruck is going to be its size, it's humongous, it's in the same class as a Ford F-250. Going to be hard for a lot of folks to find the space for that behemoth, especially for the people that like to camp but don't have hard core needs like farmers and construction workers. I think Rivian will have the suburban-outdoors people market down pat if they ever manage to actually ship and the car d…

It’s in the same weight class as the F250 but it’s roughly the same dimensionally as an F150. Batteries are heavy.

This. Dimensionally, it's almost exactly the same as an F-150. There's no reason to complain about the size.
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