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The Rivian is a truck you need, the Tesla is a truck you want. And the Revian will be road legal in Europe.
... Aren't all the Teslas skateboard design? Isn't the skateboard design the basic EV design since the EV prototypes from the 90s? This seems basically like a Rivian press release reprinted.
Yeah I think the innovation here is in the business model, not the engineering. I really do like the four motor design on the Rivian platform though. It opens up a lot of possibilities for improved performance/handling/safety and off-road capability. The 'tank turn' demo is kind of a gimmick but also not - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzwM8KE2L3I Edit: Add mecanum wheels and you could strafe (at least until they f…
The Rivian is a truck you need, the Tesla is a truck you want. And the Revian will be road legal in Europe.
I think it's actually quite the opposite. If you need a truck for its utility which one makes more sense? The Cybertruck is less expensive, has more range, bigger payload, higher towing capacity, access to the best charging network in the world. Why would you buy a Rivian instead? The only reason I can think of is that it looks more conventional. If you need a truck, you buy the Tesla. If you want a lifestyle truck t…
It's not about more conventional but about more convenient.
One example: you cannot throw stuff in the back of the Tesla from the side.
And when it comes to towing: nobody will use an electric vehicle yet. You can buy a gas truck for half the price with the same towing capacity. A gas truck with the same price as the Tesla will have twice the towing capacity.
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Yeah I think the innovation here is in the business model, not the engineering. I really do like the four motor design on the Rivian platform though. It opens up a lot of possibilities for improved performance/handling/safety and off-road capability. The 'tank turn' demo is kind of a gimmick but also not - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yzwM8KE2L3I Edit: Add mecanum wheels and you could strafe (at least until they f…
Tank turn is not a gimmick. Super useful on offroad trails where space to turn around is quite limited, which is important when you get to a part of the trail that is impassible or dangerous.
The Rivian is a truck you need, the Tesla is a truck you want. And the Revian will be road legal in Europe.
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I don’t see evidence for that. Tesla has yet to ship a vehicle that didn’t run into production delays.
Rivian has yet to ship a vehicle period.
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I think it's actually quite the opposite. If you need a truck for its utility which one makes more sense? The Cybertruck is less expensive, has more range, bigger payload, higher towing capacity, access to the best charging network in the world. Why would you buy a Rivian instead? The only reason I can think of is that it looks more conventional. If you need a truck, you buy the Tesla. If you want a lifestyle truck t…
When it comes to utility design the Rivian is far far ahead. It's not about more conventional but about more convenient. One example: you cannot throw stuff in the back of the Tesla from the side. And when it comes to towing: nobody will use an electric vehicle yet. You can buy a gas truck for half the price with the same towing capacity. A gas truck with the same price as the Tesla will have twice the towing capacit…
Give me another example of how Rivian’s utility design is "far ahead".
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Gm invented the skateboard design but never did anything with it. Tesla uses it but it's proprietary. Rivian's shtick is that they are willing to license it and build it for others. That's a big reason why Ford invested: they can immediately get access to a leading edge ev platform without spending any time on it.
Wasn't that part of Tesla's business-model between the Roadster and Model S? In 2010 they engineered the Toyota RAV4 EV ( https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Toyota_RAV4_EV ). I'm curious how many other companies approached Tesla to seek partnerships building other EVs...
I think most hype over EVs is a direct result of the Tesla stock price and people upset they missed their chance to buy it when it was $20. Probably nothing to do with Rivian or their tech - they just want "the next Tesla".
(Mild conflict of interest: I'm originally from Central Illinois, Rivian took over the old Mitsubishi plant where my dad worked, so I'm keen to see manufacturing stay around there.) I think the future earnings potential is the "platform". Which sounds like marketing hype, but I'm not so sure. The US is, at least under the current administration, not going to push for EVs, but the rest of the world is trending in that…
The Rivian is a truck you need, the Tesla is a truck you want. And the Revian will be road legal in Europe.
I think it's actually quite the opposite. If you need a truck for its utility which one makes more sense? The Cybertruck is less expensive, has more range, bigger payload, higher towing capacity, access to the best charging network in the world. Why would you buy a Rivian instead? The only reason I can think of is that it looks more conventional. If you need a truck, you buy the Tesla. If you want a lifestyle truck t…
Anyone that used thier Truck for actual work will tell you the CyberTruck is 100% not practical as a work Truck for many reasons not the least of which is the Bed (or Vault) design.
The CyberTruck seems to appeal to Hipsters and Urbanites that want a "Urban" truck, you are not going to be seeing the CyberTruck on the Farm or Jobsite
Ohh it also appeals to Gen X's that grew up watching 80's SciFi