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Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by prepend »

wartron wrote: post #70
prepend wrote: post #64

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Photoshop still doesn’t work on Catalina, after three months of release and many months of early dev release. I hope someone is able to replace them for photo processing.

> If anyone else has this issue that states: "the installer was damaged and may need to be downloaded again" I got around this by right clicking the installer and showing package contents > contents > MacOS and clicking on the install file found there Have you tried this? I have CC 2019 installed on Catalina.

I’m dealing with the workarounds and have it running. But what I find interesting is that photoshop is one of the biggest software packages and they are out OA sync with Apple.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by trynewideas »

washadjeffmad wrote: post #49
Finnucane wrote: post #16

Linux doesn’t really have a good alternative to InDesign. For photo editing I find that Darktable & Gimp serve me well enough. Fortunately, I don’t need to worry about CMYK any more.

Scribus, and I'm DocBook/LaTeX junkie. Might not work for everyone, but I put out a lot of long forms and policy stuff. I pipe through calibre for painless format shifting, as well.

They ever fix text selection in Scribus on Windows?

EDIT: Just installed 1.5.5 and nope, they haven't. Still no triple-click line or paragraph selection. Still no double-click-and-drag to select multiple words. Still only Ctrl+double-click to select a whole paragraph.

The same patterns to select text on every other piece of software on my computer don't work in this software designed to publish text.

I have no idea how y'all work with this stuff. GIMP and Scribus put basic functionality behind an obscurity gate, and then folks wonder why so many people have such a negative reaction to how they work.

EDIT: Yeah, I do still subscribe to the ticket filed THIRTEEN YEARS AGO to implement it. https://bugs.scribus.net/view.php?id=4303

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by iudqnolq »

jkrltifk wrote: post #81
iudqnolq wrote: post #74

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Is this publicly available info?

Probably not. However this subject has been discused many times on their community forums, just google it.

Thank you. Here's one official response I found, if others are interested.

> Again, we've done the research. The profits aren't there -- very few Linux users are willing to pay for commercial software.

> And the cost of entry is still high because of the fragmented Linux landscape.

> The Linux world has to change before commercial software will have reason to invest in Linux ports.

> And we haven't seen much real change in the Linux market in several years.

https://web.archive.org/web/20160321232350/https://forums.ad...

Edit notice: I completely overwrote the initial version of this comment, which said I couldn't find these posts, because I realized I was using the wrong search time terms and found what parent mentioned.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by mehhh »

iudqnolq wrote: post #94
jkrltifk wrote: post #81

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Probably not. However this subject has been discused many times on their community forums, just google it.

Thank you. Here's one official response I found, if others are interested. > Again, we've done the research. The profits aren't there -- very few Linux users are willing to pay for commercial software. > And the cost of entry is still high because of the fragmented Linux landscape. > The Linux world has to change before commercial software will have reason to invest in Linux ports. > And we haven't seen much real cha…

Appimage has solved the distribution on Linux problem, software packaged as Appimages are as easy to run as an exe on Windows, and no additional software is required (unlike Flatpak & Snap).

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by iudqnolq »

mehhh wrote: post #95
iudqnolq wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thank you. Here's one official response I found, if others are interested. > Again, we've done the research. The profits aren't there -- very few Linux users are willing to pay for commercial software. > And the cost of entry is still high because of the fragmented Linux landscape. > The Linux world has to change before commercial software will have reason to invest in Linux ports. > And we haven't seen much real cha…

Appimage has solved the distribution on Linux problem, software packaged as Appimages are as easy to run as an exe on Windows, and no additional software is required (unlike Flatpak & Snap).

The forum comment is from 10 years ago. I have no idea if it still (or ever) accurately describes Abobe's internal decision-making. I do not and have never worked for Adobe, so regardless of the merits of your assertions I can't change anything.

That said, if I had to make an assumption about Adobe's perspective, I'd assume that the position of many linux users that desktop software shouldn't require a recurring subscription was (and is) the main obstacle from Adobe's perspective, not distribution.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by acidburnNSA »

duxup wrote: post #66
knolan wrote: post #40

In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve and Serif are making waves. Affinity Photo and Designer offer strong Photoshop and Illustrator alternatives on MacOS, Windows and even iPadOS (no plans for a Linux version however) when Adobe seem to struggle to get a half baked version of Photoshop on iPadOS.…

Lightroom is still irreplaceable so far for me and photography.

Darktable is an excellent RAW developer. I learned it without ever knowing lightroom since I was a full-time Linux home user before I got into DSLR photography. I learned by following this playlist of tutorials and am amazed at the possibilities of creative expression in the digital darkroom.

https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLsks-zRRM1ZVN_g7P6ZAs...

https://www.darktable.org/

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by akersten »

Izkata wrote: post #79
akersten wrote: post #47

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Personal and strongly-held opinion follows: The biggest drawback of GIMP is that it is the least intuitive software I or anyone I've asked in person has ever used. Basic operations like making selections, cropping, and moving selections or layers are a chore. The keyboard shortcuts don't make any sense, and the tool icons all look the same, so I wind up hovering over each one to find the dang crop tool in the first p…

> The selection tool is just weird. You can highlight a region of the image, but to manipulate or transform it, there's no "Control+T" equivalent as far as I've discovered. I don't know what ctrl+T is (there may be some nuance I'm missing), but in Gimp the corner resize handles are always visible in a selection, the side handles appear on mouseover, and moving a selection is click+drag in the center.

Control+T is the shortcut in Photoshop for Free Transform, which turns your selected region into a click+drag target for translating; the corners and edges become resize handles for the selected content; outside of the corners becomes a rotate click target. There's also now a context menu for more advanced transformations like Skew, Perspective, etc.

It's pretty much an all-in-one toolbox of most anything you'd want to do with a selection, and I could never find a good equivalent of that in GIMP.

Regarding the handles in GIMP - last I tried them, they resized the selection region, rather than the underlying image, which was immensely frustrating.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by cthalupa »

jdjdjjsjs wrote: post #52
kube-system wrote: post #12

> Krita has all the bases covered, you only need to add these things and I can ditch GIMP/Photoshop. > The feature you are requesting is probably for Photo editing or manipulating images that are currently not in our focus. Looks like the author answered their own question as to why some people still aren't happy with the available options. After all, photo editing is what Photoshop was designed to do.

It doesn't appear this app is trying to be a straight up Photoshop replacement. If that's what people are looking for they can go to GIMP. So I don't see how that answer specifically indicates why people would be unhappy with the situation on Linux.

>It doesn't appear this app is trying to be a straight up Photoshop replacement.

It isn't. It's an illustration tool.

Which is why this article is kind of weird: An (excellent! I love krita!) adjacent tool exists, so why do people want the tool that fills a different purpose?

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