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Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by hirundo »

> If still after applying the suggestions it does not work, it is just a bad tablet manufacturer. Krita adheres to the standard APIs provided by the Operating System. Unfortunately, your tablet manufacturer is a stupid one

Same here, if my software breaks it must be the stupid hardware.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by Semiapies »

hirundo wrote: post #61

> If still after applying the suggestions it does not work, it is just a bad tablet manufacturer. Krita adheres to the standard APIs provided by the Operating System. Unfortunately, your tablet manufacturer is a stupid one Same here, if my software breaks it must be the stupid hardware.

And pretty much every other point in this article is that any users who find the program insufficient are stupid, unpleasable assholes who should fix it themselves if they care so damn much.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by iudqnolq »

grawprog wrote: post #26
errantspark wrote: post #3

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Honestly because this person is incorrect in their supposition that Krita competes with Photoshop. Gimp competes with Photoshop (extremely poorly), Krita is OSS Corel Painter and it's great at that. They're all image editing tools sure, but the focus is different.

Just curious, because i've never really understood, I see this a lot without much explanation. I've used gimp for years for various image and photo things and haven't used Photoshop since the mid 2000's, what's so bad about gimp in comparison, other than the ui(which to me seems much the same as old versions of photoshop), to Photoshop?

Gimp has most of the "magic" tools Photoshop has, but their algorithms perform inferiorly. For example, "automatically snap this selection to the outline of this thing in the image" (magnetic lasso tool).

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by prepend »

knolan wrote: post #40

In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve and Serif are making waves. Affinity Photo and Designer offer strong Photoshop and Illustrator alternatives on MacOS, Windows and even iPadOS (no plans for a Linux version however) when Adobe seem to struggle to get a half baked version of Photoshop on iPadOS.…

Photoshop still doesn’t work on Catalina, after three months of release and many months of early dev release.

I hope someone is able to replace them for photo processing.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by saurik »

I have long felt that if Adobe were to take their already-very-cross-platform (even afaik using a custom toolkit) tool suite and port it to Linux, they could own Linux: they should create an Adobe Linux distribution and bless a single toolkit and then I think you would suddenly see people actually feeling like they could both use it professionally and developers actually feeling like they could target it effectively without worry of fragmentation (which I am not saying is a horrible thing or anything--it is even a strength in some sense--but there is a reason why the Android ecosystem, even with all of its notorious fragmentation--feels much easier to target for games and GUI applications than "Linux", despite being Linux). The main thing that would have made this effort maybe useless before was the lack of a word processor and a spreadsheet in their application lineup, but a lot of the world has already moved on from Word and Excel to web-hosted solutions--whether from Google or from Microsoft--and so the main barriers left are these "not really likely to become web any time soon" (due to the amount of data involved) tools like Photoshop and Premier and Audition. Hell: if they partner with Valve/Steam--who is making great strides on Linux for games recently--they could quite possibly destroy Windows as a pro-user market.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by duxup »

knolan wrote: post #40

In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve and Serif are making waves. Affinity Photo and Designer offer strong Photoshop and Illustrator alternatives on MacOS, Windows and even iPadOS (no plans for a Linux version however) when Adobe seem to struggle to get a half baked version of Photoshop on iPadOS.…

Lightroom is still irreplaceable so far for me and photography.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by mattl »

prepend wrote: post #64
knolan wrote: post #40

In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve and Serif are making waves. Affinity Photo and Designer offer strong Photoshop and Illustrator alternatives on MacOS, Windows and even iPadOS (no plans for a Linux version however) when Adobe seem to struggle to get a half baked version of Photoshop on iPadOS.…

Photoshop still doesn’t work on Catalina, after three months of release and many months of early dev release. I hope someone is able to replace them for photo processing.

I remember Steve Jobs trying to convince developers to make a Photoshop for Rhapsody because Adobe hasn’t signed on to make it.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by therein »

akersten wrote: post #47
grawprog wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Just curious, because i've never really understood, I see this a lot without much explanation. I've used gimp for years for various image and photo things and haven't used Photoshop since the mid 2000's, what's so bad about gimp in comparison, other than the ui(which to me seems much the same as old versions of photoshop), to Photoshop?

Personal and strongly-held opinion follows: The biggest drawback of GIMP is that it is the least intuitive software I or anyone I've asked in person has ever used. Basic operations like making selections, cropping, and moving selections or layers are a chore. The keyboard shortcuts don't make any sense, and the tool icons all look the same, so I wind up hovering over each one to find the dang crop tool in the first p…

Yup, this summarizes exactly my gripe with GIMP.

As you said, Paint.NET has far better usability despite GIMP actually having more features.

The icons really need an overhaul with GIMP, that hovering over each icon to see if it is the crop tool, and lack of Control+T struck all too close to home.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by Finnucane »

erikbye wrote: post #37
Finnucane wrote: post #16

Linux doesn’t really have a good alternative to InDesign. For photo editing I find that Darktable & Gimp serve me well enough. Fortunately, I don’t need to worry about CMYK any more.

Tried Scribus?

Yes. At least at the time I tried it, it was not good, and choked on large documents. Perhaps it is better now, but it did not seem like it would be useful for professional work.

Re: Linux doesn't have Photoshop

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Post by wartron »

prepend wrote: post #64
knolan wrote: post #40

In some ways Photoshop is losing relevance in the creative space. Adobe’s rent seeking has pissed off a lot of people and upstarts like Krita, DaVinci Resolve and Serif are making waves. Affinity Photo and Designer offer strong Photoshop and Illustrator alternatives on MacOS, Windows and even iPadOS (no plans for a Linux version however) when Adobe seem to struggle to get a half baked version of Photoshop on iPadOS.…

Photoshop still doesn’t work on Catalina, after three months of release and many months of early dev release. I hope someone is able to replace them for photo processing.

> If anyone else has this issue that states: "the installer was damaged and may need to be downloaded again" I got around this by right clicking the installer and showing package contents > contents > MacOS and clicking on the install file found there

Have you tried this? I have CC 2019 installed on Catalina.

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