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Post by fernandotakai »

SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #127
M4v3R wrote: post #102

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Some functions of "smart" TVs are impossible to turn off, unfortunately. I personally don't like the FPS smoothing most modern TVs do, and for many there is no option to turn it off completely.

I’ve never personally seen a TV that can’t have the soap opera effect turned off, but I believe you they are out there. Apples to oranges feature though.

it was the first thing i turned off when i bought my LG tv.

funny thing: i did not know the name of it and i couldn't not understand why "Avengers: Infinity Wars" was so upsetting to watch.

took me literally 20min of poking around to find out the option and turn it off (it's called "TruMotion").

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Post by finneganscat »

zingermc wrote: post #182
gruez wrote: post #155

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>A fully malicious TV will connect to open WiFi nearby Connect to your own wifi and block any traffic?

You're still assuming it won't detect this and periodically phone home from an open network.

Where do you live that has open WiFi connections available from your home? Asking for a fiend.

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Post by samstave »

nvrspyx wrote: post #174
njudah wrote: post #126

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Slight correction; it was John Tower, a potential Defense Secretary nominee whose nomination was scuttled when a local paper got hold of his video rental records. He wasn't in congress at the time. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/John_Tower

Slight correction; it was not John Tower (and I'm curious how you mistook the two), it was Robert Bork. He was nominated for the Supreme Court by Ronald Reagan. His video rental history was obtained by Michael Dolan. His nomination was rejected by the Senate, but it wasn't necessarily over his video rental history because the videos he rented were entirely unremarkable. However, it brought up questions of privacy and…

Huh, I was thinking that it was going to reveal porn or some-such... but nope

>During debate over his nomination, Bork's video rental history was leaked to the press. His video rental history was unremarkable, and included such harmless titles as A Day at the Races, Ruthless People, and The Man Who Knew Too Much. Writer Michael Dolan, who obtained a copy of the hand-written list of rentals, wrote about it for the Washington City Paper.[36] Dolan justified accessing the list on the ground that Bork himself had stated that Americans had only such privacy rights as afforded them by direct legislation. The incident led to the enactment of the 1988 Video Privacy Protection Act.[37][38]

>To pro-choice rights legal groups, Bork's originalist views and his belief that the Constitution did not contain a general "right to privacy" were viewed as a clear signal that, should he become a justice of the Supreme Court, he would vote to reverse the Court's 1973 decision in Roe v. Wade. Accordingly, a large number of groups mobilized to press for Bork's rejection, and the resulting 1987 Senate confirmation hearings became an intensely partisan battle.

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Post by samstave »

kstrauser wrote: post #153
wcfields wrote: post #73

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Wait until 5G rolls out into mass adoption where an IoT modem is built into every TV for “diagnostics”

I have a ham radio license. If/when this happens, I eagerly look forward to using what I’ve picked up to figure out how to kill this with fire. In all likelihood, a piece of thin metal plate taped to the case in the right place will probably be all that’s needed.

Curious; How to test and verify it is working?

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Post by pjmlp »

Nextgrid wrote: post #180
pjmlp wrote: post #86

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I just need to go to the local Media Markt store to find a couple of dumb ones.

They're either old stock (which means you wouldn't get new features like HDR, etc) or really low quality ones (which means you're compromising on display quality, reliability, etc).

Not the ones I usually see on sale.

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Post by ben_w »

bilbo0s wrote: post #93
3fe9a03ccd14ca5 wrote: post #66

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Maybe bring them to your island and secretly record them doing something illegal?

So basically, if you're the common man or woman, and unable to afford an islend, you're SOL. Most of us have no reasonable ability to compromise a congressperson.

For now.

I suspect someone will hack together a WiFi-derived radar, combine it with a bunch of laser microphones, and point the result at the homes of politicians to get pose, heart rate, breathing rate, and room-by-room sound recordings.

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Post by samstave »

creato wrote: post #146
SlowRobotAhead wrote: post #124

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The signal should travel through walls better. It’s wider bandwidth and faster nitrate so it should be cheaper. All things equal with both factors above it should take less power (if for nothing else radio is on shorter time). If not part of the spec itself, it likely will coincide with from the get go. I have to agree that IoT (bleh. Coming from someone with an in-development connected device) will only become bigge…

> The signal should travel through walls better. I'm pretty sure this is exactly the opposite: the shorter wavelength signals in 5G are line of sight, much more so than 4G.

I think this is why there is a decidedly specific marketing push talking about how 5G is going to really bring high speed to rural areas.

Its slightly subtle, but not so much, in the commercials - but you can see that its there - and I believe its a CYA thing.

Now imagine when 5G is mature, and coverage is blanketed AND the Drone ID legislation is passed.

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Post by echelon »

kop316 wrote: post #198
buddylw wrote: post #165

I'm getting ready to go full Battlestar Galactica in all of my appliances. It's now difficult to find high end washers and ovens without these features. At least right now we can choose not to connect the devices, but what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether, like with Tesla and other high end modern cars? I don't think I'm just being a Luddite. This really seems like…

Thankfully it isn't quite that simple for electronics in the US. If it is sold commericially, it has to be registered with the FCC. In this way, you at least know if it has WiFi, LTE, etc, and can see the module that is installed on it. This makes it much easier to go into the device and physically disable the radios on it. Heck, maybe that is something like iFixit could do, have a how to to completely remove radio c…

The average consumer won't be able (or even know) to disable built-in telemetry. As you can see from Facebook, invasive ads, DNA kits, and Alexa, most won't even care.

We've lost this battle. Our warnings weren't strong enough to win over those interested in convenience.

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Post by joeblau »

buddylw wrote: post #165

I'm getting ready to go full Battlestar Galactica in all of my appliances. It's now difficult to find high end washers and ovens without these features. At least right now we can choose not to connect the devices, but what happens if iot LTE connections get cheap enough that the choice is removed altogether, like with Tesla and other high end modern cars? I don't think I'm just being a Luddite. This really seems like…

I was talking to a few people in a slack channel the other day about the potential market for a whole set of "dumb" appliances. At the end of the day, we came to the conclusion that it wouldn't be a able to reach mass market because the mass consumers seem to care more about price than security.
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