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Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Not sure about that number - they give no details on how it's calculated and anyways it's presented as being sales, not profits.

Edit: https://www.marketplace.org/2019/11/18/how-amazons-counterfe... has more details and is where OP ironically appears to be ripping off from. Says 1.5 million is 4% of sales, so they did around 37 million in sales.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can't imagine Euro visitors are...at all...cared about by a US local news outlet.

Maybe not in general but the issues with Amazon isn’t limited to .com. We get all the same problems with .co.uk, so I’d be interested in reading what happened

Archive to the rescue: https://archive.is/TR6HX

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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I wonder if this is an oversight by Amazon on failing to scale its anti-counterfeit measures. Maybe they didn't appropriately evaluate how large the issue would become and they're stuck with trying to amend a system that wasn't designed to combat the issue at the scale they are operating at. I'm interested in what sort of solution will eventually be effective at stopping this. Hopefully for Amazon it won't be inspect…

I don't think they care.

There was a story about a guy who self publishes his own book and on Amazon there are cheap fakes with identical title, cover and etc... Amazon just doesn't do anything.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

#14

Hey, this title could be easily misconstrued given the prominent US politician. Assuming this is an innocent accident and only pointing it out because I’d misinterpreted it to be a conflict of interest expose.

Warren is a pretty common name. Not everything is about politics.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They know what they’re doing and don’t care because it’s working.

I think the viewpoint that Amazon doesn't care is too cynical. They probably do care but are stuck with the issue of looking at effective counter measures that are too expensive to consider. What is more realistic is that they are just stumped at this point.

The amount to which they care is proportional to their apparent ability to fix the problem. You'd be amazed how quickly something can get fixed if their company is burning down over it.

In this case I expect their response will be just enough to avoid any truly damaging outcomes while not spending any resources beyond that.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

They know what they’re doing and don’t care because it’s working.

I think the viewpoint that Amazon doesn't care is too cynical. They probably do care but are stuck with the issue of looking at effective counter measures that are too expensive to consider. What is more realistic is that they are just stumped at this point.

I'm in the camp they just don't care.

There was a point in time not too long ago where amazon refused to sell Google Chromecasts, but they would sell knock-offs including those that were marked with a "G" in an apparent trademark violation.

Some retailers are selling repackaged medical equipment -- in this case cpap masks -- in ziploc bags. There may or may not be anything wrong with the mask itself, but the real bags are high quality packaging and factory sealed -- not a ziploc bag with a sticker on it.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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I wonder if this is an oversight by Amazon on failing to scale its anti-counterfeit measures. Maybe they didn't appropriately evaluate how large the issue would become and they're stuck with trying to amend a system that wasn't designed to combat the issue at the scale they are operating at. I'm interested in what sort of solution will eventually be effective at stopping this. Hopefully for Amazon it won't be inspect…

I don't think they care. There was a story about a guy who self publishes his own book and on Amazon there are cheap fakes with identical title, cover and etc... Amazon just doesn't do anything.

Well, once in a blue moon they'll take action and ban you and your original products for 'copying' the counterfeits.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

#19
Fakes/copies have always been an issue for companies, but with the move towards digital platforms, we find we have this odd situation in which we have a legit company umbrellaring fake/copy sellers and able to profit from such sales and yet appear totally immune from any repercussions.

But more so, all these transactions are documented, not cash in hand style transactions.

So, will we see some company who sells a branded product taking Amazon seems not like a case of if, but when and what angle. Meanwhile, such issues in the digital era get dealt with by politicians grumberling fashionably and such digital domains offing some token informal(non legally binding law) compromise that enables politicians to be seen to be doing there job but the digital companies doing it for them in a way that suits them far better than is appreciated.

But thanks to the digital age, all those sales of fake/copy products will be logged and are just a growing liability that Amazon is not completely immune from.

Re: Counterfeits on Amazon cost Warren bird feeder business $1.5M

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Hey, this title could be easily misconstrued given the prominent US politician. Assuming this is an innocent accident and only pointing it out because I’d misinterpreted it to be a conflict of interest expose.

Warren is a small city in the Northeast part of Rhode island. This is a local news site.
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