Boeing CEO ousted as 737 Max crisis deepens

Post by ljw1001 » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 10:01 PM UTC

adrianmonk wrote: post #420

hooloovoo_zoo wrote: post #282

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"The NYT didn’t have to be right, they only had to sell newspapers and clicks." This is totally wrong. The New York Times depends on its reputation for accuracy.

If they are wrong, their reputation won't suffer that much. They can just say, "We based our story on the best information available to us as outsiders." Which, to me at least, is a perfectly legitimate thing for a newspaper to do. Yes, they should check facts and vet sources, but their primary responsibility is to do the best they can and get the information out there for the public.

Post by cagenut » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 10:03 PM UTC

wpietri wrote: post #402

papito wrote: post #260

Most business in the United States is done despite of management, not because of it. The executives lie and BS through all of it, and the soldiers on the ground kill themselves to get things done.

I've lately been reading about the notion of "managerialism". The book Confronting Managerialism defines it as "What occurs when a special group, called management, ensconces itself systemically in an organization and deprives owners and employees of their decision-making power (including distribution of emoluments) and justifies that takeover on the grounds of the managing group's education and exclusive possession…

Post by ljw1001 » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 10:05 PM UTC

doublement wrote: post #322

lokedhs wrote: post #293

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To be honest, I don't know. It's hard to compare for the US domestic flights, since you have to decide on comparable routes. That said, flights throughout Asia at distances similar to US domestic flights tend to be reasonably cheap. I decided to make a comparison: Fly Singapore Airlines from Singapore to Hong Kong. This will cost you 225 USD in economy. A domestic US flight of the same distance would be San Francisco…

Albuquerque isn't a major destination though. Flying to provincial cities is always expensive. A better comparison with about the same distance in the US is New York to Miami, which can be done nonstop for under $200 on Delta, or $135 on whatever "Frontier" is. EDIT: In fact you can go from New York to Las Vegas for under $200, round-trip, which is considerably farther.

Post by Iwan-Zotow » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 10:08 PM UTC

yason wrote: post #459

The only credible way from here is to: - remove the hack that is MCAS for the purpose of being able to piggyback on the old 737 type certificate; - start the process of type-certifying 737-MAX as the individual design that it is without MCAS instead of trying to make it behave like the old 737 just to keep things on the cheap side; - and offer free type certification for existing 737 pilots to obtain their certificat…

Post by einpoklum » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 10:09 PM UTC

PaulHoule wrote: post #21

The big question for Boeing is how they will transition to a post-737 world. Until now, Boeing's business plan is that they will be building a starship for NASA in 2060, but you will still be stuck with a 737 on Southwest Airlines, a A320 on Jetblue, and never know that aviation could be better. The 737 throws off a lot of cash, but the single-aisle monoculture makes flying miserable. A 737 replacement will be expens…