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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by BrandoElFollito »

I am not following UFO information but I think I have only heard about them in my country (France) only twice in the last 15 years.

I heard about cases in the US much often. US are also probably 3 times or size (population) and 10 times (or whatever) military size - so maybe the numbers are consistent across countries.

I wonder however how much culture plays a role in the sightings. All UFOs in movies land in the US. You have Area51 and the extraterrestrial highway. You have Roswell and tranformers inside the Hoover Dam.

If I see a weird thing in the sky, UFO will be the 7th possibility on my list. Maybe in the US UFOs landing is business as usual for pepole ?

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by joe_the_user »

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Most UFO stories are fairly easily debunked. Even if the this particular story was an outlier in apparent credibility, why would any think that a UFO story would be an effective way to spread FUD among US adversaries?

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Post by ta999999171 »

basch wrote: post #167
PopeRigby wrote: post #160

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why do you think it's wrong?

wouldnt it be a lot simple to just announce "hey if you think you see a ufo, 'its probably us' and we would appreciate a report so we can correlate sightings with our various stealth tests."?

US pride regularly creates political theater in place of logical moves.

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Post by bufferoverflow »

awb wrote: post #33
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in. Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation. One counter poin…

It's one thing to confuse a civilian, it's not that hard. But your narrative doesn't explain actual fighter pilots observing objects flying orders of magnitude faster and making incredible maneuvers.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by bufferoverflow »

dragonelite wrote: post #174

Aliens, traverses interstellar space just to troll humans.

Or they just don't care about humans, but are sucking out some valuable resource that we're not aware of. I keep thinking about that Bob Lazar interview, he claimed these alien aircraft fly off of a stable isotope of element 115. What if that element was rare, and they are mining it from, say, the core of our planet.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by akmarinov »

nradov wrote: post #153
akmarinov wrote: post #133

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why put it commercially if keeping it secret gives you a huge advantage over foreign powers? Case in point the satellite photo Trump leaked - leading civilian experts were dumbfounded that such a clear image from a satellite was even possible, let alone already deployed and in use. Commercial applications for that would be huge, yet it’s staying secret.

No one was dumbfounded. Image clarity was consistent with expectations based on the known size of the KH-11 series. This is basic physics.

“The resolution is amazingly high,” Ankit Panda from the Federation of American Scientists told NPR, adding it was “much higher than anything I’ve ever seen.”

Tell it to Ankit Panda.

Melissa Hanham, deputy director of the Open Nuclear Network at the One Earth Foundation, believes that the resolution is so high, it may be beyond the physical limits at which satellites can operate.

And this lady.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by cybert00th »

I have a friend who has worked in US military black ops projects since at least the early '90s.

And back in the mid '90s he told me there were aircraft being built and tested which had flight characteristics similar to those described here.

This report is about a sighting in 2004, so it's more than possible that 10-ish years on, advances had been made that make this sighting quite believable.

(edited grammar)

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by dwd »

A_Parr wrote: post #156
nradov wrote: post #88

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Any potential adversaries are smart enough to realize that if the US military had really invented a fundamental breakthrough they wouldn't be spending a fortune on the B-21 program.

If spending a fortune on the B-21 program ensured no adversaries believed the US invented a fundamental breakthrough in aircraft design, that would be the best reason to do it.

This is a good point.

Dropping a program for no apparent reason can be a give away that there is something else...

The Boeing X-45 program is a good example:

https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/3889/the-alarming-case...

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by rurban »

sambull wrote: post #31
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

There is definitely some sort of disinformation campaign, I guess its aimed at other nations. [0] I'm guessing this is part of the campaign, or else maybe alien tech? [1] I'll assume its to make someone else think we have tech we may not have. [0] https://www.thedrive.com/the-war-zone/29232/navys-advanced-a... [1] https://www.vice.com/en_us/article/evjwkw/bob-lazar-says-the...

Why alien tech? It certainly fits the description of modern Russian or Chinese cruise missiles acting in a swarm.

But I'm baffled why they would they do this close to enemy territory. Loosing one of those would be the worst case.

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