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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by nickhalfasleep » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 1:24 AM UTC

dingaling wrote: post #44

awb wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in. Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation. One counter poin…

> Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it First flew 1981, first official photo released 1988. And plenty of speculation in betwee..

I was camping with my father above Tuolumne Meadows near Yosemite in 1986. We just had sleeping bags, no tent.

As we bed down for the night, four tiny black diamonds silently flew overhead to the west. Absolutely creepy to see things so abstract and quiet.

Didn't make sense until the reveal in 1988, but it was four nighthawks heading from Nevada to the Pacific Ocean.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by egfx » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 1:27 AM UTC

jameslk wrote: post #103

ubertoop wrote: post #98

I wonder... Could you project an image into the atmosphere via satellite. Maybe this was just an image. It accelerated with apparently 0 mass. It left no exhaust plumes. It was invisible to radar EVEN as they got close. Fit's all the criteria for something that isn't really even there.

Wasn't it captured on radar? That should eliminate this possibility

Yes, you can detect projections via radar. This projections aspect was also my thought on this for a while and I did some research on it. I’ll append the link to the paper later. Another thing that comes to mind is there was a post here recently that talked about concentrated laser beams technology which looks interesting to consider.

Probably the easiest way to explain the erratic behavior.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by nradov » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 1:34 AM UTC

akmarinov wrote: post #133

awb wrote: post #33

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in. Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation. One counter poin…

Why put it commercially if keeping it secret gives you a huge advantage over foreign powers? Case in point the satellite photo Trump leaked - leading civilian experts were dumbfounded that such a clear image from a satellite was even possible, let alone already deployed and in use. Commercial applications for that would be huge, yet it’s staying secret.

No one was dumbfounded. Image clarity was consistent with expectations based on the known size of the KH-11 series. This is basic physics.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by bathtub365 » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 1:35 AM UTC

djsumdog wrote: post #63

CalChris wrote: post #51

Earlier quoted context omitted.

No, the stealth fighter was not in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. The F-117 was delivered in 1982 and operational in 1983. It was 'declassified' in 1988 and displayed in 1990. And it wasn't even a fighter. It was for ground attack. https://fas.org/man/dod-101/sys/ac/f-117.htm

I thought maybe the poster was talking about the SR-71, but it too didn't stay classified for very long.

It also wasn’t stealth, or an attack aircraft.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by natalyarostova » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 2:04 AM UTC

dvh wrote: post #108

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

While this is probably wrong, it’s a fascinating theory.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by A_Parr » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 2:25 AM UTC

nradov wrote: post #88

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Any potential adversaries are smart enough to realize that if the US military had really invented a fundamental breakthrough they wouldn't be spending a fortune on the B-21 program.

If spending a fortune on the B-21 program ensured no adversaries believed the US invented a fundamental breakthrough in aircraft design, that would be the best reason to do it.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by willis936 » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 2:50 AM UTC

After reviewing the footage with someone familiar with IR imaging, they pointed out that it looks like a FLIR sensor that was pointed at the sun for a prolonged period. There is only one piece of evidence and it doesn’t seem sufficient.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by hindsightbias » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 3:12 AM UTC

throwaway7951 wrote: post #45

https://www.ovnis-armee.org/11_plasma_technology.htm The above discusses exploiting the Bethe Formula to produce a radiant point at some distant from a beam generator. IIUC the energy falloff suddenly increases below a threshold energy level therefore the particle beam will deposit most of its energy in a very short distance. Could the reported 'tic tacs' i.e. bright white elongated balls be the result of this? Would…

Imagine what the intersection of two long range masers might look like.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by darepublic » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 3:53 AM UTC

dvh wrote: post #108

CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

Very plausible explanation

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by PopeRigby » Mon, Dec 23, 2019, 4:00 AM UTC

natalyarostova wrote: post #155

dvh wrote: post #108

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Here's my theory about the recent influx of UFO footages coming from high places. US military was working on advanced drones. Nothing fancy, think current best tech, add 15 years and billion in r&d, that kind of stuff. Then when it was ready for test they flew it secretly before their own pilots and waited for reports. And waited. And waited some more. Silence. They disabled stealth, added flashlights, nothing. Milit…

While this is probably wrong, it’s a fascinating theory.

Why do you think it's wrong?