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Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by k__ »

shakna wrote: post #15
lmm wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What's Crystal's unique selling point? It's older than Rust, Kotlin, Swift, Nim, or even OCaml, and doesn't really offer anything they don't. More Ruby-like syntax? Fine, but most people don't particularly like Ruby syntax.

> It's older than Rust, Kotlin, Swift, Nim, or even OCaml, and doesn't really offer anything they don't. Crystal is only five years old. Nim is 11, Rust is 9, Kotlin is 8, OCaml is 23 and Swift is 5. Basically, Crystal is tied with Swift as the youngest. What it offers right now is a simple porting process for those with Ruby codebases.

I think they meant younger.

But, yeah, besides the syntax familiarity for Ruby programmers it doesn't seem offer much that the others do.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by loktarogar »

lmm wrote: post #12
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's just because I come from Ruby, but Crystal seems like an amazing language. I'm interested why it seems to be getting little attention compared to Go, Rust, & Julia. It seems in the same league to me. Kotlin and Swift have more obvious reasons for their adoption.

What's Crystal's unique selling point? It's older than Rust, Kotlin, Swift, Nim, or even OCaml, and doesn't really offer anything they don't. More Ruby-like syntax? Fine, but most people don't particularly like Ruby syntax.

Ruby's syntax is a huge draw for many people.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by tomrod »

nlh wrote: post #17
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's just because I come from Ruby, but Crystal seems like an amazing language. I'm interested why it seems to be getting little attention compared to Go, Rust, & Julia. It seems in the same league to me. Kotlin and Swift have more obvious reasons for their adoption.

I found Crystal about a year ago and absolutely fell in love with it. It just “clicks” for me. My sense from reading most peanut-gallery commentary that the biggest reasons it hasn’t taken off more (yet) are: 1. Real multi-threading (it’s now in alpha - but previously just had single-threaded concurrency - and sorry I might be getting that terminology wrong). 2. Windows support (I personally don’t care but I haven’t…

> Windows support

WSL support maybe?

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by Narishma »

tomrod wrote: post #25
nlh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found Crystal about a year ago and absolutely fell in love with it. It just “clicks” for me. My sense from reading most peanut-gallery commentary that the biggest reasons it hasn’t taken off more (yet) are: 1. Real multi-threading (it’s now in alpha - but previously just had single-threaded concurrency - and sorry I might be getting that terminology wrong). 2. Windows support (I personally don’t care but I haven’t…

> Windows support WSL support maybe?

That's not good enough.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by dleslie »

onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #11
jchw wrote: post #6

Wow. Preemptive multitasking, graphical window management, POSIX-like, in a programming language that to my knowledge it hasn't yet been done in... and in just several months of work. There's no smoke and mirrors as far as I can tell. I dug back to the initial commit: https://github.com/ffwff/lilith/commit/c9fa1053dc6a22d630ee6... - and it's just bootstrapping to VGA. Very well done, and inspiring. Makes me want to t…

Maybe it's just because I come from Ruby, but Crystal seems like an amazing language. I'm interested why it seems to be getting little attention compared to Go, Rust, & Julia. It seems in the same league to me. Kotlin and Swift have more obvious reasons for their adoption.

It lacks first-class Windows support.

That's it. That's why it fails to gain the traction it deserves.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by dleslie »

tomrod wrote: post #25
nlh wrote: post #17

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I found Crystal about a year ago and absolutely fell in love with it. It just “clicks” for me. My sense from reading most peanut-gallery commentary that the biggest reasons it hasn’t taken off more (yet) are: 1. Real multi-threading (it’s now in alpha - but previously just had single-threaded concurrency - and sorry I might be getting that terminology wrong). 2. Windows support (I personally don’t care but I haven’t…

> Windows support WSL support maybe?

That's like recommending Office via Wine in 2001.

Re: Lilith: x86-64 OS written in Crystal

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Post by giancarlostoro »

dleslie wrote: post #28
onlyrealcuzzo wrote: post #11

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Maybe it's just because I come from Ruby, but Crystal seems like an amazing language. I'm interested why it seems to be getting little attention compared to Go, Rust, & Julia. It seems in the same league to me. Kotlin and Swift have more obvious reasons for their adoption.

It lacks first-class Windows support. That's it. That's why it fails to gain the traction it deserves.

That never stopped the Go community from porting Go to Windows. It was never ported by core maintainers, but by Go developers themselves.
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