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Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by lolc »

wonderwonder wrote: post #114
lolc wrote: post #97

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That would be really weird for them to be hiding from us behind the sun. What's in it for them? They arrive in Sol to set up a base but the carbon-based predators on the wet planet must not be disturbed. Why should they care about us in that specific way? That tale sounds a lot like typical human hubris to me.

Why do we have rules about disturbing the tribes in the amazon or the Sentinelese. Maybe there are established rules about contacting primitive cultures? Maybe they are just watching for the Fermi Paradox to take care of us.

A cosmic conspiracy. I like it. As a sci-fi story.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by mathgenius »

thdrdt wrote: post #32
mattlondon wrote: post #7

What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. Are these HUD things around the object just visual bounding boxes around something with high contrast, or are the HUDs doing sensor fusion with IR and radar and other things? Not just for UFOs but I've seen similar things from gun cam footage in Iraq etc and wondered how it works.

There is a Joe Rogan podcast with David Fravor, a pilot who also saw it. I believe he explains it's all visual locking but there are a lot if different camera types. https://youtu.be/Eco2s3-0zsQ

I'm interested, but this is all I have to say about it: get a bunch of physicists in a room and I'm sure they could come up with 100 other possible theories for this other than "aliens did it". I'm not saying these theories will be particularly convincing, some of them may involve time-travel (physicists are a whacky bunch) but these UFO people seem to be locked into a way of thinking of these things as solid objects zooming around, "an f-18 couldn't do that" etc. etc. Meh.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by akmarinov »

awb wrote: post #33
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in. Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation. One counter poin…

Why put it commercially if keeping it secret gives you a huge advantage over foreign powers?

Case in point the satellite photo Trump leaked - leading civilian experts were dumbfounded that such a clear image from a satellite was even possible, let alone already deployed and in use.

Commercial applications for that would be huge, yet it’s staying secret.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by toomanybeersies »

baybal2 wrote: post #129
CalChris wrote: post #104

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There were actually two A-12s. The Lockheed A12 was introduced in 1967 and retired in 1968. The McDonnell Douglass A12 was never built and finally cancelled in 1991. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_A-12 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/McDonnell_Douglas_A-12_Avenger... The SR71 succeeded the Lockheed A12. It was hard to keep secret. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lockheed_SR-71_Blackbird https://nationalinterest.o…

> There were actually two A-12s. The Lockheed A12 I bet this was made on purpose. USA has learned some tricks from Soviets with their "fake patterns" F-117 wasn't a fighter, and A-12 was not a CAS aircraft. Pretty much like Kirov was not really an "auxiliary craft," and Tu-22 M-1-2-3 were all nearly completely different aircraft

The F117 is also the USAF designation for an aircraft engine (Pratt & Whitney PW2000), used on the C-17.

Someone suggested to me a few years ago that might be the reason why the F-117 was designated that way.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by suby »

thatsenough wrote: post #99
suby wrote: post #19

One of the most fascinating things about this UFO Navy story is that at least one of the UFO's employed radar jamming after being spotted.[0] To me, this is good evidence that we are not dealing with a currently unknown natural phenomina. [0] https://abcnews.go.com/US/navy-pilot-recalls-encounter-ufo-u...

Radar jamming is pretty well-known, isn’t it? For instance, you blast the target with noise across radar’s bandwidth, drowning out the return signal. There are various techniques and countermeasures, but it’s not alien technology.

Yes, it's well known. It's human technology, but it's also almost certainly alien technology if we operate under the assumption that an alien species built something capable of travelling across the stars.

Regardless, I'm not even necessarily saying that it is evidence of aliens. Merely that it evidence against the idea that this is something which is naturally occurring.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by mileycyrusXOXO »

cairo_x wrote: post #118
dotancohen wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently > being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. And that's the answer to what this object was. The tracking devices do not track regularly-flying objects so well, so how was this not-by-the-laws-of-physics object tracked? Because the object was dirt on the lens. This has been proven by several different methods. Firstly, the object stays on t…

... except both pilots saw the object using their eyeballs through the window.

Not both, one did.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by SturgeonsLaw »

cairo_x wrote: post #118
dotancohen wrote: post #95

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> What I find kinda interesting about this is the HUD apparently > being able to "lock on" or track or whatever the object. And that's the answer to what this object was. The tracking devices do not track regularly-flying objects so well, so how was this not-by-the-laws-of-physics object tracked? Because the object was dirt on the lens. This has been proven by several different methods. Firstly, the object stays on t…

... except both pilots saw the object using their eyeballs through the window.

Must have been dirt on the eyeballs

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by hirundo »

Recurecur wrote: post #128
narag wrote: post #121

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And the same goes for things like stealth technology, or inertia control. We have stealth techonology, don't we? Inertia control is not needed if you can create a field. The problem with acceleration is that it needs to be transmited from the engine to the human body. That happens through the seat in planes or rockets. But if you were able to create a field that uniformly affected all the molecules of everything into…

So, positing the video is authentic, which seems likely, here's what we know: - This object, estimated to be 40 feet in largest dimension, exhibited flight performance beyond an F-18 - These objects exhibit long flight endurance, indicating a high density power source - The object was solid, as it was detected by the Aegis radar - According to the pilot involved, the object did not obey the laws of physics as we know…

Before we diagnose unicorns, why couldn't it have been a drone with cowling around its propellers/impellers, forced to be 40 foot long in order to carry an advanced miniaturized submarine fission reactor. That could give it range and enough acceleration to make it seem to defy physics.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by b06tmm »

HeWhoLurksLate wrote: post #89
b06tmm wrote: post #84

Earlier quoted context omitted.

When I was in the Navy (1977 ~ 1981), our A-6E was equipped with an ECM suite that was designed to intercept and process pulse signals, automatically select the optimum countermeasures technique, and then apply the technique. One of these countermeasures was to send a return signal back to the radar, "telling the radar that the aircraft had accelerated (beyond the speed of light) and was now on the opposite horizon.…

That's hilarious! Somebody probably had a lot of fun coming up with and testing that idea.

There was several different programs the ECM would use and this is the only one I can remember at the moment.

When I went to the ECM school on the system, the first part of the class was listening to pilots being chased by surface to air missiles. The class was in a little building and it was Top Secret classified at the time. We could take notes, but they were locked up in a safe and we couldn't take them back to the squadron.

Re: UFO: Pilot who spotted famous Tic Tac breaks silence after 15 years

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Post by humaniania »

awb wrote: post #33
CommieBobDole wrote: post #28

As much as I want to believe, I feel like this almost has to be some sort of disinformation campaign, either to cover up some sort of testing that the US military is doing and thinks someone else might have seen, or to make US adversaries think that we've made some sort of fundamental breakthrough and we're ineptly trying to cover it up by calling it a UFO. Probably the latter. Would be interesting to read the articl…

One of the pilots in this incident was on Rogan saying how they used to fly silently without lights above remote campsites, then once they saw a campfire blast the lights and go straight up. They'd laugh as the UFO reports flowed in. Similarly, the stealth fighter was in operation for 20 years before the public knew about it. It's not unrealistic to consider top secret tech as a possible explanation. One counter poin…

Yeah he admits how he is a prankster but then fully expects people to believe his explanation of a 60 second video clip without any other context than his interpretation?
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