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Post by dragonwriter »

mirimir wrote: post #167
yrxuthst wrote: post #138

Earlier quoted context omitted.

As a professing Christian, I would say your reading is correct, but this verse (like the rest of the ceremonial and judicial laws) is a command given specifically to Israel, not to all readers. Capital punishment is very common in this code of law, as it was in other civilizations from this time period. There are many laws that have to do with keeping sin and impurity/health risks out of the camp, and this is, by bib…

So why is it still there? I'm sure that at least some Abrahamic writings didn't get included in the Christian Bible. Or even in the Tanakh.

> So why is it still there?

Why is it part of the Christian Canon? Because it provides important context for later material, e.g., Acts 15. The controversy in the early Christian Community over the application of the Jewish ritual law to gentile Christians is hard to understand without the Jewish ritual law.

Also, not all Christians are gentile Christians.

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Post by aaron695 »

> Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

I think the profiles are human generated. I see no evidence otherwise.

If they have a GAN why did they repeat the photo?

I'd think they got the photo from some open GAN project.

[edit] Researchers actual say they might be from thispersondoesnotexist.com [3.14] But I guess that spoils a good HN story.

[3.14] https://graphika.com/uploads/Graphika%20Report%20-%20Operati...

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Post by cerved »

smadurange wrote: post #170
jedberg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that as we move into a world where anyone can be a "journalist" and anyone can have a voice, we need professional journalists more than ever. Now a journalist will not only need training in writing well, conveying a story with facts, and investigating, but they will also need to become experts in identifying fake source material. In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything,…

Well, it's not like the professional journalists don't lie at all for profit and self-preservation. Lol. Facebook does a lot of disageeable things but making everyone a journalist isn't one of them. This just decentralised journalism and actually empowered freespeech. There are issues with it, but that's a better problem we can work on to mitigate than giving a few channels a monopoly over truth.

Facebook provides a medium where most people can disseminate their message, with little restriction or cost, to a potentially large audience. It doesn't make everybody a journalist.

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Post by xorcist »

btown wrote: post #13
nemild wrote: post #9

Earlier quoted context omitted.

One of the scariest quotes for me was Facebook's Little Red Book in 2012 (a book handed out to every employee) that had this quote: > "When everyone has a printing press [i.e., Facebook], the ones with the best ideas are the ones people listen to." In retrospect, it gives a ton of insight into the flawed beliefs within the company. https://twitter.com/nemild/status/1006533287378968576 https://www.businessinsider.com/…

I can see this being a naïve but realistic take given what we knew in ~2008. In 2012 it should have been clear that this model could be gamed. And it's on Facebook that their culture wouldn't allow them to see that.

Spam and Sybil attacks were well known problems a decade earlier. It is basically what killed the vision of the semantic web in its infancy, several years before Facebook took off. It's certain everybody knew gaming data was a thing in 2008.

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Post by tempodox »

mgiannopoulos wrote: post #51

Reported by Snopes for months now, not “discovered” by Facebook https://www.snopes.com/news/2019/10/11/pro-trump-outlet-link...

Would anybody expect the truth from FB? No way they wouldn't spin this to their best possible advantage.

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Post by ben_w »

sgt101 wrote: post #151
lazysheepherd wrote: post #128

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Did not know about it, so just checked +20 different versions/translations[1] of the said verse in the bible, and scripture could not have been sharper and clearer on several points; - men who had sex with another men - should be killed - they deserve it Would you point me to a source/insight maybe? Else I will believe, that this is too, as I have witnessed countless times personally, nothing but an apologetic approa…

Ask yourself (and your bible) "what did Jesus say"? And "what would Jesus do"? I believe that Jesus did not speak at all about homosexuality. There is no indication that he attacked or held any anger towards homosexuals. Conversely Jesus was strongly anti-capitalist! No money changing or animal selling in temples folks! But fundamentally - when reading the bible your question must be "am I a Christian - or not?" what…

It’s fine that you interpret the bible that way. Certainly I’ve seen Christian pro-gay-rights memes that say Jesus never mentioned homosexuality.

Unfortunately, this whole thread seems to be on the topic of “It’s a shame that mass-dissemination of information demonstrably fails to make the best ideas into the most popular ideas [0]” — and although you interpret the bible that way, I’ve witnessed many profess Christianity while also condemning gay men.

[0] Well, unless you take the memetic evolution attitude that “best” isn’t a moral statement but shorthand for “best at reproducing”, but if anyone on this thread has said that, I’ve missed it.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by ben_w »

davidajackson wrote: post #65
pushpop wrote: post #25

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You’re assuming they didn’t see that. Given it’s now nearly 2020 and we’ve had years of reports of election meddling yet Facebook are only calming down on suggestive emoji - stating that they have no interest in policing “free speech” when it comes to political ads - I’m inclined to believe they’re not unaware their network is being games but rather don’t care because it’s still money in their pocket.

I don't think you're right @nemild, it's not a scary quote and it's also true. Sure, people can be duped temporarily but the best quality ideas last. Information is best distributed when it can be distributed freely. What alternative would you propose, censorship, regulation? Facebook solved a problem (connecting) but it also created one (fake content, bot farms). Either Facebook will fix it, or if they don't, new pr…

> Either Facebook will fix it, or if they don't, new products will pop up to solve the problem to try to provide more reliable content.

Do you believe that “more reliable content” will have a financial edge over “more popular content”, and if so, why?

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Post by swiley »

MiroF wrote: post #140
shijie wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re referring to the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, well, I’m sorry to say that the excerpt from “The God Delusion” or wherever you learned this simplistic piece of misinformation is, in fact, incorrect. Shocker. In fact, there is no account of capital punishment, in regards to this law (killing homosexual men), in Jewish history. As for Judaism, Rabbinic tradition understands the Torah's system of capital punish…

But the book straight up says that, right? Like regardless of what was actually done, it literally says it right there: 'If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.'

That sounds like ancient Jewish law. The whole point of Christianity is that the ancient Jewish law isn’t valid anymore because of Christ.
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