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Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by unityByFreedom »

nemild wrote: post #9
jedberg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that as we move into a world where anyone can be a "journalist" and anyone can have a voice, we need professional journalists more than ever. Now a journalist will not only need training in writing well, conveying a story with facts, and investigating, but they will also need to become experts in identifying fake source material. In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything,…

One of the scariest quotes for me was Facebook's Little Red Book in 2012 (a book handed out to every employee) that had this quote: > "When everyone has a printing press [i.e., Facebook], the ones with the best ideas are the ones people listen to." In retrospect, it gives a ton of insight into the flawed beliefs within the company. https://twitter.com/nemild/status/1006533287378968576 https://www.businessinsider.com/…

I think that's still true, it's just that the internet + social media let a lot of people become publishers at once, and we haven't yet decided to whom we should listen.

There are a lot of mistakes being made for which consequences have not yet occurred. Journalists of previous generations on whom we could rely had built up lifetimes-worth of reputation. On whom can you rely today? It's an open problem which I think is solvable in spite of today's difficulties.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by seandougall »

lazysheepherd wrote: post #128
shijie wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re referring to the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, well, I’m sorry to say that the excerpt from “The God Delusion” or wherever you learned this simplistic piece of misinformation is, in fact, incorrect. Shocker. In fact, there is no account of capital punishment, in regards to this law (killing homosexual men), in Jewish history. As for Judaism, Rabbinic tradition understands the Torah's system of capital punish…

Did not know about it, so just checked +20 different versions/translations[1] of the said verse in the bible, and scripture could not have been sharper and clearer on several points; - men who had sex with another men - should be killed - they deserve it Would you point me to a source/insight maybe? Else I will believe, that this is too, as I have witnessed countless times personally, nothing but an apologetic approa…

3 Galatians is largely a deprecation notice for all the Old Testament laws (at least in the context of Christianity). But yeah, some people like to ignore that and use Leviticus to bolster their twisted political views, and if you take it in isolation, it does come across as pretty clear-cut.

(edit: and if you accept their four-degrees-of-game-of-telephone translation at face value, as sibling comment points out)

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by shijie »

lazysheepherd wrote: post #128
shijie wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re referring to the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, well, I’m sorry to say that the excerpt from “The God Delusion” or wherever you learned this simplistic piece of misinformation is, in fact, incorrect. Shocker. In fact, there is no account of capital punishment, in regards to this law (killing homosexual men), in Jewish history. As for Judaism, Rabbinic tradition understands the Torah's system of capital punish…

Did not know about it, so just checked +20 different versions/translations[1] of the said verse in the bible, and scripture could not have been sharper and clearer on several points; - men who had sex with another men - should be killed - they deserve it Would you point me to a source/insight maybe? Else I will believe, that this is too, as I have witnessed countless times personally, nothing but an apologetic approa…

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Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by ansmithz42 »

A fascinating thought on this for me is the basic American belief that "bigger is better". What I mean here is that the companies generating these fake ids will generate lots of the fake ids, under the belief that the more they have the more influence they have. At some point, the fake ids will reach a tipping point and outnumber the real ids thus making Facebook itself irrelevant. Sort of a "DOS" using fake ids, in this case a denial of relevance. There are some interesting paths that this could take, but I don't see any incentive in Facebook really doing much about this because their power actually lies in also "Bigger is better". So, generation of fake ids could be a blessing by overloading Facebook and making it irrelevant.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by gjs278 »

burtonator wrote: post #108
jedberg wrote: post #4

It's ironic that as we move into a world where anyone can be a "journalist" and anyone can have a voice, we need professional journalists more than ever. Now a journalist will not only need training in writing well, conveying a story with facts, and investigating, but they will also need to become experts in identifying fake source material. In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything,…

> In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything, we'll need to rely on reputable journalists to vet that material for us. signed media is going to become FAR more important in the future. We're going to have cameras shipping with crypto so that news agencies can sign their video.

no it’s not. nobody will care. spotting fakes is trivial.

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Post by linusnext »

lopmotr wrote: post #120
primitivesuave wrote: post #105

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the century that the printing press was invented, one of the most popular books to be printed was the Malleus Maleficarum, which systematized the practice of witch burning in the following centuries. Better dissemination of ideas does not necessarily mean better ideas. https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Malleus_Maleficarum

Nevermind that. The most popular book of all time tells its readers to kill gays.

Letting your inner Schicklgruber show...

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by yrxuthst »

lazysheepherd wrote: post #128
shijie wrote: post #124

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you’re referring to the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, well, I’m sorry to say that the excerpt from “The God Delusion” or wherever you learned this simplistic piece of misinformation is, in fact, incorrect. Shocker. In fact, there is no account of capital punishment, in regards to this law (killing homosexual men), in Jewish history. As for Judaism, Rabbinic tradition understands the Torah's system of capital punish…

Did not know about it, so just checked +20 different versions/translations[1] of the said verse in the bible, and scripture could not have been sharper and clearer on several points; - men who had sex with another men - should be killed - they deserve it Would you point me to a source/insight maybe? Else I will believe, that this is too, as I have witnessed countless times personally, nothing but an apologetic approa…

As a professing Christian, I would say your reading is correct, but this verse (like the rest of the ceremonial and judicial laws) is a command given specifically to Israel, not to all readers. Capital punishment is very common in this code of law, as it was in other civilizations from this time period. There are many laws that have to do with keeping sin and impurity/health risks out of the camp, and this is, by biblical standards, both of those. By modern standards it's a terrible law, but it was never intended for modern use.

Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Post by MiroF »

shijie wrote: post #124
lopmotr wrote: post #120

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nevermind that. The most popular book of all time tells its readers to kill gays.

If you’re referring to the Bible verse Leviticus 20:13, well, I’m sorry to say that the excerpt from “The God Delusion” or wherever you learned this simplistic piece of misinformation is, in fact, incorrect. Shocker. In fact, there is no account of capital punishment, in regards to this law (killing homosexual men), in Jewish history. As for Judaism, Rabbinic tradition understands the Torah's system of capital punish…

But the book straight up says that, right? Like regardless of what was actually done, it literally says it right there:

'If a man lies with a man as with a woman, they have both committed an abomination. They must surely be put to death; their blood is upon them.'

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