Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

Post by rhizome » Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 1:20 AM UTC

TheOtherHobbes wrote: post #59

lotsofpulp wrote: post #12

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People don’t want to pay for good journalism, nevermind spending time to read and evaluate if it is or isn’t good journalism. Maybe it’s not even realistic for everyone to do that.

People also don't want to pay for good government. As a rule, people don't want to pay for anything that benefits them in a second-order way with non-immediate consequences - even if objectively the benefits are real. It's a classic economic monkey trap. Holding onto something now is "better" than letting go and getting a bigger benefit later. Which suggests that perhaps we should be doing more to eliminate monkey tr…

Post by rhizome » Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 1:22 AM UTC

MuffinFlavored wrote: post #15

rvz wrote: post #5

And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

Require manual profile validation for new Facebook accounts? Probably would get downvoted if I said SSN + a credit check. Phone number required + needs to be validated + can not be reused + can not be Twilio. Prove your address? Prove your ISP cable bill? I don't know. Everything I guess, people here are going to tell me it's an invasion of privacy and they don't trust Facebook to do it. But they'll let CreditKarma h…

Post by dwd » Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 1:34 AM UTC

Kim_Bruning wrote: post #28

rvz wrote: post #5

And so it appears that the inevitable has 'finally happened'. Mark Zuckerberg's website is now a place not to be trusted as a source of news, finding friends and meeting others if there's a possibility of AI generated profiles being proliferated on the website. I've heard that meeting real humans outdoors makes it less likely to be deceived. Their authenticity is vouched via word of mouth and experience by other huma…

Eh, Wikipedia learned to deal with it too (and sockpuppets and meatpuppets, and more). I'm sure Facebook can work it out too. Though they have some very game-able elements.

Post by fyp » Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 1:44 AM UTC

perl4ever wrote: post #78

ekianjo wrote: post #66

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> "When everyone has a printing press [i.e., Facebook], the ones with the best ideas are the ones people listen to." Should be: "When everyone has a printing press, the most persuasive ones are the ones people listen to"

The ideas that survive are the ones that reproduce themselves by being copied from one mind or other storage facility to another. Where it all goes wrong is that it is very expensive to test an idea and determine whether it is good , whereas an idea that is very attractive to repeat and copy without testing is much fitter and the more it resists testing the better it is. This is why the whole framework for protecting…

Post by perl4ever » Sat, Dec 21, 2019, 1:45 AM UTC

fyp wrote: post #97

perl4ever wrote: post #78

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The ideas that survive are the ones that reproduce themselves by being copied from one mind or other storage facility to another. Where it all goes wrong is that it is very expensive to test an idea and determine whether it is good , whereas an idea that is very attractive to repeat and copy without testing is much fitter and the more it resists testing the better it is. This is why the whole framework for protecting…

I have seen the theory that the most optimally emotional ideas are the ones that go viral: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=rE3j_RHkqJc