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Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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Re: Facebook Discovers Fake AI-Generated Profiles

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FYI, I actually just published a guide on how you can help ensure that ("deepfake") tools that you make are less likely to end up misused like this: https://www.technologyreview.com/s/614912/ethical-deepfake-t ... (Also at /newest; 3rd page now, and the other submission. Ideally those topics at least would be merged?) Summary of mitigations: # Limiting users or use cases - User Vetting : Carefully vet those who can u…

Good article, but for the sake of argument: Don't you think any technical "solutions" to this issue will also eliminate the possibility to use these tools for ethical goals (let's say the roles were reversed or whatever) – in addition to all the other gray-area, and inevitable arms-race of detection/avoidance?

Definitely.

I mean I think e.g. you could have incredible art projects and experiences created out e.g. of giant undetectable fake crowds. There are real tradeoffs in terms of what we value or need in a society.

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The NYT has referred to presidents as Mr. X for hundreds of years

To bolster the claim, "Mr. Obama, Your Move" (2014): https://www.nytimes.com/2014/08/10/opinion/sunday/mr-obama-y...

And more historical, "Another Interview with Mr. Lincoln; His Opinion of Compromises" (1861) https://www.nytimes.com/1861/01/14/archives/anotherinterview...

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You then run the risk of excluding developing economies. Unless you adjust the payment to be region specific, in which case you’d just get foreign powers (be that corporations or state sponsored) using their wealth to fund hordes of new registrations from said developing economies; thus negating the benefit of a sign up fee.

a low single-digit dollar amount of money isn't really prohibitive any more in almost all regions on the planet for a one-off payment (networked regions, at least). That's an argument facebook itself likes to make but if you look at the WhatsApp growth which used to have a model of 1$/year it seems completely fabricated. And arguably a small payment amplifies anti-abuse measures because you have a hard financial trai…

and a single digit isn't really prohibitive for making fake accounts either. I'd gladly pay $250 for 50 fake fbook accounts spewing the commercial and propaganda crap that makes me profit.. or just feel good about skewering another side I don't care for.

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It's ironic that as we move into a world where anyone can be a "journalist" and anyone can have a voice, we need professional journalists more than ever. Now a journalist will not only need training in writing well, conveying a story with facts, and investigating, but they will also need to become experts in identifying fake source material. In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything,…

That's nothing new. Journalists have always needed to identify fake source material. Dan Rather wrecked his career by reporting a story about George W. Bush based on fake documents.

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It's ironic that as we move into a world where anyone can be a "journalist" and anyone can have a voice, we need professional journalists more than ever. Now a journalist will not only need training in writing well, conveying a story with facts, and investigating, but they will also need to become experts in identifying fake source material. In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything,…

One of the scariest quotes for me was Facebook's Little Red Book in 2012 (a book handed out to every employee) that had this quote: > "When everyone has a printing press [i.e., Facebook], the ones with the best ideas are the ones people listen to." In retrospect, it gives a ton of insight into the flawed beliefs within the company. https://twitter.com/nemild/status/1006533287378968576 https://www.businessinsider.com/…

It might not be quite that simple - people can game the system of course - but it has been my experience that the Internet is generally very good at highlighting the best ideas and best content to the fore. The most upvoted comments and most upvoted posts are usually those which are thought out and reasonable, interesting, etc. In other words, of high quality. The best podcasts and the best music, along with the most entertaining YouTube personalities are generally those which get the most attention. At least, I have almost never "discovered" content which was really good without an already sizeable following.

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In part, imho, the distrust comes from the the standards of the highest tiers of professional journalists being on a low right now too.

People don’t want to pay for good journalism, nevermind spending time to read and evaluate if it is or isn’t good journalism. Maybe it’s not even realistic for everyone to do that.

People also don't want to pay for good government.

As a rule, people don't want to pay for anything that benefits them in a second-order way with non-immediate consequences - even if objectively the benefits are real.

It's a classic economic monkey trap. Holding onto something now is "better" than letting go and getting a bigger benefit later.

Which suggests that perhaps we should be doing more to eliminate monkey traps from our economic and political systems.

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It's ironic that as we move into a world where anyone can be a "journalist" and anyone can have a voice, we need professional journalists more than ever. Now a journalist will not only need training in writing well, conveying a story with facts, and investigating, but they will also need to become experts in identifying fake source material. In a world where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything,…

It's interesting in the current world, prior in our "move into the world.. where anyone can make a video or photo of anyone doing anything" we're already struggling pretty badly with identifying fake news and what is considered fact vs fiction.

I don't see this as a move into a new world, but rather the increase level of hopelessness we're dealing with when it comes to good journalism. It may be time to pause and rethink our current approach to journalism since the current model is not working very well now and certainly won't be in the future.

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