Surprisingly confident tone in the title for an experimental result that is far from confirmed! Experimental research is damn hard and it is very easy to make tiny oversights resulting in signals like this (in an absolute sense — with all respect to the Hungarian lab which has made this claim). While the possibility is exciting, public facing communication should be very careful to not jump the gun. > ”...breaks Stan…
New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
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Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#42Not really directly related to the article, but YouTube recently recommended to me a series of videos from "Strange Loop" which is some kind of tech conference. One of the talks was "Jagged, ragged, awkward arrays" by Jim Pivarski [1]. It is fairly narrow in scope talking about a very particular data modelling problem but it introduced me to the kind of data processing physicists do to make these kinds of discoveries…
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#43Anyone know if this boson was predicted by E8 Theory?
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#44That seems more like not speaking English than not being a native English speaker. If you can't be bothered to pay for something until it's published why should the reviewers be obligated to give you the benefit of the doubt?
> why should the reviewers be obligated to give you the benefit of the doubt? because that's what they are supposed to be doing? and beside, i wonder if those reviews are actually free...
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#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you can't be bothered to communicate clearly then you have expressed a lack of interest in being understood clearly. If you don't want to publish in English then don't publish in journals that require English.
There's a difference between bad grammar/spelling and ambiguity; ambiguity is the worse issue. Some journals have fields in their review report where reviewers can say if the text is unambiguous, but no field about grammar or spelling in general.
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#46Earlier quoted context omitted.
>> This result isn't even peer-reviewed yet. ArXiv pre-prints are pretty normal in physics and math. >> that doesn't have anything to do with the science, it does say something about the sloppiness of the researcher, I think. Interesting. BTW, Krasznahorkay is a highly-cited researchers.
Yes, they are normal... but they also aren't even peer-reviewed yet. Ergo, you can treat it as more significant than a random physics crank posting on his blog, but not as trustworthy as something that has in fact been properly vetted.
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#47I was extremely hyped the last time something about this news was posted; someone explained to me that potentially model-breaking things happen all the time, and that this needs super intense cross validation before it's actually considered valid. Reader beware.
Reader beware should be replaced with : 'Proof required' There is nothing wrong with being hyped about a potential find. I will remain excited without passing assumptions!
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#48This result isn't even peer-reviewed yet. All of this hype about the X17 particle is coming from a pre-print on the arXiv. https://arxiv.org/abs/1910.10459 They claim a 7.2 sigma result, but the distribution of the null-hypothesis (called PDF(exp) in the paper) was determined from simulations of one atomic transition and "external pair creation on the target backing", and the only source of systematic error they took…
https://home.cern/news/news/physics/plot-thickens-hypothetic...
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#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
Because being cheap has no correlation with being a bad scientist?
If you can't be bothered to communicate clearly then you have expressed a lack of interest in being understood clearly. If you don't want to publish in English then don't publish in journals that require English.
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#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
If you can't be bothered to communicate clearly then you have expressed a lack of interest in being understood clearly. If you don't want to publish in English then don't publish in journals that require English.
Hark at Mr Gatekeeper here. It’s up to the journals whether they’re content to allow the editing once they’ve finished the reviews
In a world where there's always more stuff to read than time available to read it, signals of diligence and competence are important if you want to be taken seriously.