New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
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Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#2The field is not sold on this. Some previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21616084
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#3Surprisingly confident tone in the title for an experimental result that is far from confirmed! Experimental research is damn hard and it is very easy to make tiny oversights resulting in signals like this (in an absolute sense — with all respect to the Hungarian lab which has made this claim). While the possibility is exciting, public facing communication should be very careful to not jump the gun.
> ”...breaks Standard Model”
SMH
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#4This will probably get much more traction once an independent group confirms it. I don't believe this article presents any new information on X17 that we haven't already heard.
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#5Anyone know if this boson was predicted by E8 Theory?
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#6I was extremely hyped the last time something about this news was posted; someone explained to me that potentially model-breaking things happen all the time, and that this needs super intense cross validation before it's actually considered valid.
Reader beware.
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#7Anyone know if this boson was predicted by E8 Theory?
I was wondering the same thing!
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#8Anyone know if this boson was predicted by E8 Theory?
If this is substantiated, it will be retrodicted by any number of theories.
I keed, I keed... but I'm also partially serious. There's been a ton of theories over the years that would produce new particles, whose only flaw is that those particles weren't found. It wouldn't be at all surprising if there are past theories that with just a little tiny sensible tweak will turn out to contain this particle, and possibly also some other explanation as to why it wasn't found until now. In a sense, that's just a rephrasing of the fact that particle physics has been starved for data over the past couple of decades. No shortage of ideas, but no data to test them against. It really wouldn't be that surprising that several of the tons of ideas will be able to easily accommodate this new data, even as others are completely destroyed by it.
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#9Not really directly related to the article, but YouTube recently recommended to me a series of videos from "Strange Loop" which is some kind of tech conference. One of the talks was "Jagged, ragged, awkward arrays" by Jim Pivarski [1]. It is fairly narrow in scope talking about a very particular data modelling problem but it introduced me to the kind of data processing physicists do to make these kinds of discoveries. Just wanted to share in case anyone else finds this kind of thing interesting.
Re: New boson appears in nuclear decay, could break standard model if confirmed
#10The field is not sold on this. Some previous discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21616084
I am skeptic also, but at the same time, I remember the skepticism of the higgs.
I am more than welcome to be proven wrong though!
This news is a little crazy and I don't think people 'not being sold on it' should stop people trying.