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Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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Are there any other projects using this setup? Also, any write up on the compelling reasons to switch? Are they hoping this move will attract more contributors? Article is unclear.

For background, see http://exple.tive.org/blarg/2019/04/26/synchronous-text/

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

#23

Are there any other projects using this setup? Also, any write up on the compelling reasons to switch? Are they hoping this move will attract more contributors? Article is unclear.

Write up of reasons at this morning’s other FP here: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21835749

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you want mozco to go against the community's and project leaders decisions? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking or do I have to explain further?

Yes, if you are getting paid by someone you should do what they ask of you, especially when it's something sensible.

Most Rust contributors are not Mozilla employees. Even in the core team, 3 of 9 members weren't (as of 2017, may be different today),

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you want mozco to go against the community's and project leaders decisions? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking or do I have to explain further?

Yes, if you are getting paid by someone you should do what they ask of you, especially when it's something sensible.

So if I give you a dollar you'll stop commenting?

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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post #8

Daily reminder that Rust uses Discord, a closed source piece of software with draconian privacy and data retention terms. Steve Klabnik will predictably reply to me saying that it was the decision of the community and blah blah, but the Mozilla Corporation should not have allowed it.

> Steve Klabnik will predictably reply to me saying that it was the decision of the community and blah blah

Baiting people like this is inherently uncivil.

> the Mozilla Corporation should not have allowed it.

Mozilla has no say over what the Rust community does.

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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This screenshot https://discourse-prod-uploads-81679984178418.s3.dualstack.u... shows a UI that seems way wore easier to grip than the riot UI. I remember screenshots https://img.bfmtv.com/c/840/625/06e8/68cd7316f6a279a3899fcf8... http://www.tchap.fr/wp-content/uploads/2019/05/interface-tch... of the client used set up by the France efforts.

Are those clients ever going to be released to the general public ?

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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post #5

I'm pleasantly surprised! They took the route of "promising but underdeveloped technology" rather than settling for a well-developed solution that compromises their principles (which, frankly, I wouldn't have faulted them for; at the end of the day you still have to get work done). With luck maybe we'll see Mozilla contribute to Matrix? There is, after all, an implementation written in Rust: https://github.com/ruma

The last ruma commit was in August, which was after a long period where nothing happened at all. Is the project dead?

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

#29

Earlier quoted context omitted.

So you want mozco to go against the community's and project leaders decisions? Do you see the problem with that line of thinking or do I have to explain further?

(Also, Rust isn't under MoCo, it's under MoFo directly.)

Rust isn't "under" either. The core team, who are ultimately in charge, don't report to anybody in the Mozilla organization.

Re: Synchronous Messaging at Mozilla: The Decision

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post #18

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes, if you are getting paid by someone you should do what they ask of you, especially when it's something sensible.

So if I give you a dollar you'll stop commenting?

If you were paying me to comment and you wanted me to stop commenting, yes definitely.

I could go my own way and comment for free (as I already do) and then I would be able to do whatever I wanted.

But as long as I am funded by you, yes I should do what you ask of me.

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