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Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
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Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#42What also doesnt help is that drugs is kind-a accepted in the party scene. XTC, Cocaine, in certain circles its quite normal that its used. And buying it is very easy. Also the police doesn't prioritize handling this. I heard that accross one police station taxis would stop, get somebody in the cart, drive 100m, and then the person gets out. The police knew that drugs was being dealed here, but they didnt prioritize…
We can reliably get this brown looking molly sent over to the UK from Amsterdam. Not sure what the risks involved are but it usually arrives in a birthday card.
Legit great stuff 10/10, keep it coming boys.
Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#43Answer: no. Not by any real definition of a narco-state[1]. There is a lot of drug trafficking/production, but there is no meaningful infiltration into the official institutions/government. 1. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narco-state
Ah, of course, "Betteridge's law of headlines" [1]
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge%27s_law_of_headline...
Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#44Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#45What also doesnt help is that drugs is kind-a accepted in the party scene. XTC, Cocaine, in certain circles its quite normal that its used. And buying it is very easy. Also the police doesn't prioritize handling this. I heard that accross one police station taxis would stop, get somebody in the cart, drive 100m, and then the person gets out. The police knew that drugs was being dealed here, but they didnt prioritize…
>everybody who know how to recognize them will see them popup everywhere. Just out of curiosity, what are the tells for a drug dealer in Amsterdam? Asking for a friend.
Black (or of African descent), alert, hands in hoodie's pockets, locking gazes, and trying to understand the message in your gaze. Usually everyone's moving except them (except people on their phones), when they move it's back and forth within a short distance.
Before you scream: "Racist!"
I'm black (African, to be precise). I'm describing my experience in several places in Germany (where I live), Prague, and Amsterdam. I trade nods (of acknowledgement) with them and sometimes stop to speak with the Africans who speak my type of pidgin English.
Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#46I like how the conservative BBC, writing from a country whose murder rate is double that of the Netherlands, is trying to hype up violence Amsterdam because they don't like drugs. What a bunch of shit.
Even so, liquidations are on the up in the Netherlands, and they are almost always drug-mob related. There's not enough money to patrol the south-Dutch countryside for illegal production and disposal, which is turning into the number one environmental issue the country has (apart from climate-related problems). The Police of Amsterdam had to shutter their major crimes unit for lack of funding, Dutch Police has some of the worst solving rates in Europe anyway, liquidations are predominantly in this city and are spilling over into non-criminal life, lawyers are being killed in the streets, are recusing themselves every day.
Thing may not be as violent as in Britain, but the country is on course for it, mainly due to drug related criminal activity. Some newspapers, even the justice minister recently, theorize that the lack of experience of Police in dealing with major crime is just not well developed in general, which together with a generally relaxed attitude and a central and well connected location in Europe (port of Rotterdam, airport of Amsterdam) make the country an ideal place to conduct such drug-business in relative quiet.
Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#47I like how the conservative BBC, writing from a country whose murder rate is double that of the Netherlands, is trying to hype up violence Amsterdam because they don't like drugs. What a bunch of shit.
I suspect 'The Hague' from the byline is not in a country with a murder rate double that of the Netherlands.
Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#48I like how the conservative BBC, writing from a country whose murder rate is double that of the Netherlands, is trying to hype up violence Amsterdam because they don't like drugs. What a bunch of shit.
Even so, liquidations are on the up in the Netherlands, and they are almost always drug-mob related. There's not enough money to patrol the south-Dutch countryside for illegal production and disposal, which is turning into the number one environmental issue the country has (apart from climate-related problems). The Police of Amsterdam had to shutter their major crimes unit for lack of funding, Dutch Police has some o…
> lawyers are being killed in the streets
I mean... that happened once.
Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#49Earlier quoted context omitted.
The vast majority of narco crime in NL is done by ethnic Dutch people. Sure, there's other ethnicities too. Like most crime, generally it's a pretty representative mix of the poorer classes. Immigration causes all kinds of things, good and bad, but increased drug crime isn't really on the list so far. Source: I live in the south of NL (narco hotspot) and I read the local newspaper. Majority of drug criminals caught h…
To be fair, TFA's take stresses these connections: "Young Moroccans call each other 'Mocro'...", and "... West Africa. The drugs then went north over old smuggling lines from Morocco, and young Moroccans whose parents had moved to the Netherlands still had family connections and migration routes to tap into."
Only one part of it. Most synthetic drugs are made on site or smuggled in though different routes not involving the parties described. It's a wide mix but due to some "grouping" of certain ethnicity in groups they easily get called out the same while there is a wide variety of people involved.
Most is coming in via the Rotterdam harbor (and possibly Vlissingen, IJmuiden and others). And as far as I can read up on it, every ethnic group available is somehow involved in some part of it.
Re: Is the Netherlands becoming a narco-state?
#50Earlier quoted context omitted.
Even so, liquidations are on the up in the Netherlands, and they are almost always drug-mob related. There's not enough money to patrol the south-Dutch countryside for illegal production and disposal, which is turning into the number one environmental issue the country has (apart from climate-related problems). The Police of Amsterdam had to shutter their major crimes unit for lack of funding, Dutch Police has some o…
> lawyers are being killed in the streets I mean... that happened once.
Derk Wiersum, Philippe Schol recently. I lost track of the number of recusations. The professional club has openend a hotline for judges and laywers in case of threats (which largely go unreported in the media for obvious reasons) [1].
This all is unprecedented.
[1] https://www.advocatenorde.nl/nieuws/contactpunt-beroepsgroep...