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Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

Pigo wrote: post #66
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #45

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"... who will have anxiety attacks without it." Honestly, I've met many daily smokers in my life. Heck, I've been one off and on and tend to like to do it most weekends. I greatly prefer it to alcohol.Most folks can quit quite easily: At most, a few weeks of decreased appetite and trouble falling asleep. The worst effects wear off in the first week. The few folks I've met that have trouble without it have mental heal…

I'm definitely not trying to blame weed, if people can use it responsibly I say great! The problem is people who have conditions like anxiety who become dependent on it to get by. Some people become alcoholics because they have stuff going on that they can't deal with, and that doesn't mean I think alcohol should be illegal. But just like them, I wish the drug wasn't a numbing agent that prevents them from dealing wi…

I don't see an issue. I also don't see an issue with folks going to therapists, taking SSRI's or other medicines, and so on. So long as the weed isn't doing undue damage to their health, go for it. Psychiatric medications often come with their own health concerns, sometimes you get the concern and sometimes you don't. Unfortunately, many folks make a distinction between those prescriptions and weed, but rarely say a word if folks pour their anxieties into over-exercise. To me, none of it matters if it makes their life better, if it is worth the consequences, and it isn't harming others (within reason).

It isn't like alcohol where doing it daily will absolutely destroy your life (legal issues aside). It doesn't have the same destroying effects on the family, friends, and so on.

And to be fair, if there is an underlying problem, it doesn't really prevent folks from dealing with it either. Lots of folks go to therapy while smoking regularly. If it doesn't need therapy, then it probably takes care of the issue... since it keeps the anxiety attacks at bay.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by Zpalmtree »

liveoneggs wrote: post #126
denkmoon wrote: post #120

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It's certainly not a good thing. Is it comparatively better than other risky activities associated with young adults, such as binge drinking? I think yes.

that oil-causing-lung-failure thing was no joke

But that wasn't from marijuana, it was from dodgy chinese carts

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by dwrodri »

liveoneggs wrote: post #126
denkmoon wrote: post #120

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It's certainly not a good thing. Is it comparatively better than other risky activities associated with young adults, such as binge drinking? I think yes.

that oil-causing-lung-failure thing was no joke

The deaths caused by the THC oil are definitely nothing to scoff at, but they are more reflective of cannabis' 70+ years as a black market product than they are of the effects cannabis has on the human body. The CDC has determined that a high concentration of Vitamin E was the likely cause of lung failure for the afflicted [1].

In my opinion, this reinforces how important regulatory bodies are when it comes to things that we put into our bodies. If we choose to continuously gravitate towards giving citizens greater bodily autonomy, it is extremely important that we ensure people know what's going into their body and the risks associated with it.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by tartoran »

sgarman wrote: post #50
kasi wrote: post #42

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depends on what you're vaping!

Maybe stay away from that vitamin E acetate.

It's a lottery, it doesn't advertise E acetate anywhere, the surprise comes a bit alter when the lungs stop working properly...

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by rconti »

dzhiurgis wrote: post #106
MS90 wrote: post #95

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Each time I've quit for an extended period of time it's taken me about three weeks to feel normal. During those weeks I definitely feel more grumpy and irritable. I'm also curious as to whether THC or other chemicals in the smoke have any effect on the body's thermoregulation, because each time I've quit I've also woken up drenched in sweat every night for about the first week or so. Crazy dreams as well. These have…

I find sleep changes really noticeable, so so everyone else. Dreams become very vivid for couple of days to a point of discomfort. When you smoke i never dream. When you stop body overcompensates.

I wonder if it's suppressing REM sleep like alcohol does

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by thatcat »

dwrodri wrote: post #133
liveoneggs wrote: post #126

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that oil-causing-lung-failure thing was no joke

The deaths caused by the THC oil are definitely nothing to scoff at, but they are more reflective of cannabis' 70+ years as a black market product than they are of the effects cannabis has on the human body. The CDC has determined that a high concentration of Vitamin E was the likely cause of lung failure for the afflicted [1]. In my opinion, this reinforces how important regulatory bodies are when it comes to things…

The deaths were caused because vitamin E acetate requires bile salts to be absorbed, which are not present in the lungs. It had nothing to do with THC.

https://www.sciencedirect.com/book/9780124166875/essentials-...

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by [deleted] »

P_I_Staker wrote: post #107
dls2016 wrote: post #93

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> the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC Daily smoker here and I think I'd disagree slightly. We've been hearing for decades that "today's weed" is stronger than the 60's or whatever. But my understanding is that modern extraction techniques made this something of a reality now that oil is so widespread; I've been continually shocked to discover the number of people I meet who own vape pens. Most of…

Smoking all day long is more common than some people think. How much are we talking? Used correctly this theoretically shouldn't be a big deal and almost exactly the same as dry bud. You just take one drag instead of needing to smoke a whole bowl. If they're doing this a couple times during the day, then hitting it harder in the evening, it should be no big deal. Of course, there may be consequences to being stoned c…

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Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by bag531 »

vorpalhex wrote: post #36
trophycase wrote: post #30

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Most of the democratic party is conservative.

Your personal Overton window is likely extremely liberal/progressive and outside the mainstream.

On the contrary, yours is extremely conservative/reactionary, and even moreso outside the mainstream.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by riversflow »

thaumasiotes wrote: post #98
userbinator wrote: post #91

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100 is defined as an "average" IQ, yet I suspect everyone on this site is quite a bit above that, likely in the 110-120 range and skewed heavily upwards, and have not actually interacted constantly on a long term with someone who has a ~100 IQ, much less a ~92 IQ.

Fun fact: Ivy League students who attended public high schools hold sharply lower opinions of what "average people" are able to do than do students who attended private high schools.

To this end: I’ve astonished a number of peers who did the straight to a 4-year track with a anecdote about only 22% of my community college “Critical Thinking” class passing the first midterm, which covered very simple truth functions and negation. To this day it sticks with me.
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