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Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by citruscomputing »

Pigo wrote: post #66
Broken_Hippo wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"... who will have anxiety attacks without it." Honestly, I've met many daily smokers in my life. Heck, I've been one off and on and tend to like to do it most weekends. I greatly prefer it to alcohol.Most folks can quit quite easily: At most, a few weeks of decreased appetite and trouble falling asleep. The worst effects wear off in the first week. The few folks I've met that have trouble without it have mental heal…

I'm definitely not trying to blame weed, if people can use it responsibly I say great! The problem is people who have conditions like anxiety who become dependent on it to get by. Some people become alcoholics because they have stuff going on that they can't deal with, and that doesn't mean I think alcohol should be illegal. But just like them, I wish the drug wasn't a numbing agent that prevents them from dealing wi…

How do you feel about people becoming dependent on prescription ADHD medications?

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by P_I_Staker »

trianglem wrote: post #65

I don’t understand why everyone moved away from directly smoking the flowers so readily. I hated the idea of shatter/resin when I first heard it and there is no way I would use a vape pen.

They are extremely convenient. You can usually get away with smoking them even inside (jerk move though), and definitely in smoking areas. In order to get that kind of buzz with bud, you have to repeatedly hit bowls or joints. This requires carrying stuff that's less portable, and drawing attention to yourself.

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Post by hoistbypetard »

Geimfari wrote: post #67
bdamm wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, we seem to have ample evidence that Tylenol seems to be strongly associated with autism[1] and weakly with ADHD[2], yet its use is not only widespread but unquestioned. The problem, of course, is that it's complicated; correlation isn't necessarily causation. So how to respond? Should all high school students be taught how to think critically of bioscience results? It's not easy to distill down to distinct us…

Your first source is a bad one but here is a review: [1] The association is really not strong but the authors do advice against indiscriminate paracetamol use. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29341895 [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26930528

While the liver toxicity alone would seem to argue against indiscriminate acetaminophen (google tells me that is the same as "paracetamol" but that is a new name to me) use, I would expect common sense to argue against indiscriminate use of anything that is not simply food. I'd look to evidence like you provide to advise me as to how, exactly, I should discriminate. But indiscriminate use of most things seems inadvisable.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by mythrwy »

mnm1 wrote: post #77

> The rate of overall marijuana use held steady for high school students who reported using it once or more over the past year, but there was an uptick in daily use. Marijuana use has NOT increased and more teens are vaping instead of smoking, consuming it in safer ways than ever before. Sounds like great news. Too bad the headline is clickbait bullshit.

Maybe teen reporting of marijuana use has increased now it's more socially acceptable to be out the closet about it.

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Post by knight17 »

Geimfari wrote: post #67
bdamm wrote: post #52

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Indeed, we seem to have ample evidence that Tylenol seems to be strongly associated with autism[1] and weakly with ADHD[2], yet its use is not only widespread but unquestioned. The problem, of course, is that it's complicated; correlation isn't necessarily causation. So how to respond? Should all high school students be taught how to think critically of bioscience results? It's not easy to distill down to distinct us…

Your first source is a bad one but here is a review: [1] The association is really not strong but the authors do advice against indiscriminate paracetamol use. [1] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29341895 [2] https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/26930528

Is there any alternatives suggested for this medicine?

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by seattle_spring »

excalibur wrote: post #33

That's wonderful. It's the most dangerous form of vaping and the most dangerous use of cannabis (aside from DUI), finding popularity with one of the most at-risk demographics.

Vaping is the most dangerous use of cannabis? Can you share some citations on that claim?

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by noobermin »

Broken_Hippo wrote: post #37
kalessin wrote: post #12

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I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I would not dismiss teen smoking/vaping as a public health concern, it's not just about counterfeiting, I think we need better education about the risks and ben…

I'm very much for pro-fact-based drug education. Not just for THC, but for the most common things that folks can come into contact with. No scare tactics, just answering questions like what happens to one's body, what "high" feels like, realistic methods of ingestion, and benefits. Unfortunately, the greater public - the government at least - hasn't been so keen on such things because the focus is more on keeping dru…

Seriously, apart from just cultural ideas at this point, it would be so easy to at least start to study it in a more fact-based way by just removing weed from schedule 1.

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Post by sincerely »

whateveracct wrote: post #101
trianglem wrote: post #65

I don’t understand why everyone moved away from directly smoking the flowers so readily. I hated the idea of shatter/resin when I first heard it and there is no way I would use a vape pen.

Vape dry herb directly and you can't lose :)

Does it smell?

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Post by denkmoon »

kalessin wrote: post #12
whalesalad wrote: post #5

The thing that sucks here is the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC and everything to do with vaping a black market product that has shitty ingredients in it. I live in CA where it is becoming more and more regulated. I have a 'church' down the street where I can buy stuff at a steeeep discount (no tax, lower prices)... but I go to the regulated places the next town over (higher taxes, higher prices…

I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I would not dismiss teen smoking/vaping as a public health concern, it's not just about counterfeiting, I think we need better education about the risks and ben…

It's certainly not a good thing. Is it comparatively better than other risky activities associated with young adults, such as binge drinking? I think yes.
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