I don’t understand why everyone moved away from directly smoking the flowers so readily. I hated the idea of shatter/resin when I first heard it and there is no way I would use a vape pen.
Vape dry herb directly and you can't lose :)
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#102The thing that sucks here is the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC and everything to do with vaping a black market product that has shitty ingredients in it. I live in CA where it is becoming more and more regulated. I have a 'church' down the street where I can buy stuff at a steeeep discount (no tax, lower prices)... but I go to the regulated places the next town over (higher taxes, higher prices…
nothing inherently to do with THC
That's a bit of a stretch.
These people aren't vaping -- and suffering the negative consequences of it -- simply because it's "a black market product that has shitty ingredients in it".
They're doing it (also) because THC is psychologically addictive. And because it also (when used chronically and excessively) seems to impair judgement and cognitive development.
So actually - while it's not just about THC -- the issue is inherently related to THC and its intrinsic properties.
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#103I don’t understand why everyone moved away from directly smoking the flowers so readily. I hated the idea of shatter/resin when I first heard it and there is no way I would use a vape pen.
While everyone else seems to be pointing out the health benefits, here are a couple others:
No recognizable smell. You can carry a pen with you, hit it at your leisure, and there's no burning flower smell, no through the bag smell, etc. It's much more discrete, so it's easier to possess, use, and conceal.
Assuming legit products, it's often a better deal as you know what strength you're getting and how much mileage you get out of it.
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#104Earlier quoted context omitted.
there's definitely a big push from entrenched industries that will suffer with marijuana's legality, and Boomer's treating it like a taboo. the front runner for the LIBERAL party in America is anti weed ffs.
Most of the democratic party is conservative.
Politics are relative. There are also far more than two neat little dimensions on which to analyze political orientation. The 2 principle component vectors of progressive/conservative beliefs between, say, UK and US are not aligned if one reduces the political spheres to 2 space.
People really need to stop thinking inside of 2 little boxes, RvsD or progressive vs conservative. This reductionist thinking is really bad for society.
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#105Earlier quoted context omitted.
The investigation is ongoing, vitamin E is not confirmed as the causal agent. Anyway, the problem is actually people inhaling random chemicals, a problem which vaping has gifted to us. There will be other cases of lung injury unrelated to vitamin E. Frankly, even 1 more dead guy is too many, I support a total ban on vaping.
So I also assume you fully support prohibition of alcohol then? Since it kills 1,000s a year in the US?
This is a foolish argument. 1. Vaping is at the stage where it can be controlled, whereas alcohol is beyond that point. Public health is not best served by a logically coherent approach where every product is treated fairly. 2. Alcohol will not burn your lungs and kill you in a few days at recommended usage levels, whereas vaping random juice apparently will.
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#106Earlier quoted context omitted.
How long does it take for full recovery?
Each time I've quit for an extended period of time it's taken me about three weeks to feel normal. During those weeks I definitely feel more grumpy and irritable. I'm also curious as to whether THC or other chemicals in the smoke have any effect on the body's thermoregulation, because each time I've quit I've also woken up drenched in sweat every night for about the first week or so. Crazy dreams as well. These have…
I find sleep changes really noticeable, so so everyone else. Dreams become very vivid for couple of days to a point of discomfort.
When you smoke i never dream. When you stop body overcompensates.
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#107The thing that sucks here is the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC and everything to do with vaping a black market product that has shitty ingredients in it. I live in CA where it is becoming more and more regulated. I have a 'church' down the street where I can buy stuff at a steeeep discount (no tax, lower prices)... but I go to the regulated places the next town over (higher taxes, higher prices…
> the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC Daily smoker here and I think I'd disagree slightly. We've been hearing for decades that "today's weed" is stronger than the 60's or whatever. But my understanding is that modern extraction techniques made this something of a reality now that oil is so widespread; I've been continually shocked to discover the number of people I meet who own vape pens. Most of…
Smoking all day long is more common than some people think. How much are we talking? Used correctly this theoretically shouldn't be a big deal and almost exactly the same as dry bud. You just take one drag instead of needing to smoke a whole bowl.
If they're doing this a couple times during the day, then hitting it harder in the evening, it should be no big deal. Of course, there may be consequences to being stoned constantly, but that's true no matter what. The load on the lungs should be pretty tame; likely better than smoking. There's definitely the potential to become more tolerant though, due to the higher concentration, though.
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#108Earlier quoted context omitted.
Most of the democratic party is conservative.
Your personal Overton window is likely extremely liberal/progressive and outside the mainstream.
Mainstream for who though? The Overton window for the United states is very different from Canada's even though they're right next to each-other. For a lot of countries, the United States democratic party is fairly far to the right.
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#109>Vaping of marijuana was at the root of a public health crisis that unfolded this summer The fact that it takes the author two more paragraphs to elucidate that the illness was in fact linked to bootleg, vitamin E-containing cartridges is disappointing, but not surprisingly. That fact seems really material to the argument.
The investigation is ongoing, vitamin E is not confirmed as the causal agent. Anyway, the problem is actually people inhaling random chemicals, a problem which vaping has gifted to us. There will be other cases of lung injury unrelated to vitamin E. Frankly, even 1 more dead guy is too many, I support a total ban on vaping.
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#110Earlier quoted context omitted.
So I also assume you fully support prohibition of alcohol then? Since it kills 1,000s a year in the US?
This is a foolish argument. 1. Vaping is at the stage where it can be controlled, whereas alcohol is beyond that point. Public health is not best served by a logically coherent approach where every product is treated fairly. 2. Alcohol will not burn your lungs and kill you in a few days at recommended usage levels, whereas vaping random juice apparently will.
> Vaping is at the stage where it can be controlled
Strongly disagree, see: Prohibition