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Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Unlike other drugs (smoking, drinking) adults (at least the noisy ones online) very much want marijuana. And because of that they are very poorly motivated to stop its use among teens. So this isn't going to get better, it'll get much worse. Adults also believe marijuana use is perfectly fine, and risk free, which may or may not be true for adults, but is not true for teens. But because they believe it's risk free th…

It's very true on HN. Marijuana it's heavily promoted here.

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What have you been reading? Can you share some of that data with us so we can come to a common understanding? I was under the impression that this was not a fact, just a supposition; I would love to be enlightened!

> The team found that persistent marijuana use was linked to a decline in IQ, even after the researchers controlled for educational differences. The most persistent users — those who reported using the drug in three or more waves of the study — experienced a drop in neuropsychological functioning equivalent to about six IQ points (PNAS, 2012). "That's in the same realm as what you'd see with lead exposure," says Weis…

That's great, but what does that actually mean for someone? Does it mean that they are less happy? Does it mean that they earn less money? Does it mean they have less meaningful relationships?

I understand the mechanisms behind marijuana use, but what is the real effect on a person's life?

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>Vaping of marijuana was at the root of a public health crisis that unfolded this summer

The fact that it takes the author two more paragraphs to elucidate that the illness was in fact linked to bootleg, vitamin E-containing cartridges is disappointing, but not surprisingly. That fact seems really material to the argument.

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It's funny because for years, as the opening of the article suggests, usual teenage vices (booze, drugs, and sex) have been dropping contrary to 80s teen movie stereotypes. FWIW, apart from the potential concerns with inhaling vaporized anything--something people skeptical of vaping point to although the science hasn't really established if it is harmful or not yet, weed is certainly the weakest of drugs (including a…

> weed is certainly the weakest of drugs (including alcohol) wrt harm for the body. is the brain a part of the body? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/ https://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain

> is the brain a part of the body?

It sure is. Now go look up what alcohol does to the brain.

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Teenagers don't know how easy they have it. In the 1990s, I'd have go call up some shady delivery guy, wait around for 3 hours, then pay $10 per gram for some half-assed schwag. Now these kids can get an adult to walk into a high-end dispensary, and pay $10/hour for some 32% super dank nugs.

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>Vaping of marijuana was at the root of a public health crisis that unfolded this summer The fact that it takes the author two more paragraphs to elucidate that the illness was in fact linked to bootleg, vitamin E-containing cartridges is disappointing, but not surprisingly. That fact seems really material to the argument.

there's definitely a big push from entrenched industries that will suffer with marijuana's legality, and Boomer's treating it like a taboo.

the front runner for the LIBERAL party in America is anti weed ffs.

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I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I would not dismiss teen smoking/vaping as a public health concern, it's not just about counterfeiting, I think we need better education about the risks and ben…

What are the side effects of this system developing incorrectly?

If you smoke heavily and quit, your endocannabinoid system underperforms by about 20% for two or three weeks. It basically dulls pleasure in everything, producing anhedonia, depressed appetite and irritability. It impacts sleep negatively too.

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> The team found that persistent marijuana use was linked to a decline in IQ, even after the researchers controlled for educational differences. The most persistent users — those who reported using the drug in three or more waves of the study — experienced a drop in neuropsychological functioning equivalent to about six IQ points (PNAS, 2012). "That's in the same realm as what you'd see with lead exposure," says Weis…

That's great, but what does that actually mean for someone? Does it mean that they are less happy? Does it mean that they earn less money? Does it mean they have less meaningful relationships? I understand the mechanisms behind marijuana use, but what is the real effect on a person's life?

You can't really A/B test humans. Best thing that could be done is twin studies and even those have flaws.

By the way your line of questioning implies an agenda. I don't have an issue with that, but thought I'd highlight that for you.

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> The team found that persistent marijuana use was linked to a decline in IQ, even after the researchers controlled for educational differences. The most persistent users — those who reported using the drug in three or more waves of the study — experienced a drop in neuropsychological functioning equivalent to about six IQ points (PNAS, 2012). "That's in the same realm as what you'd see with lead exposure," says Weis…

That's great, but what does that actually mean for someone? Does it mean that they are less happy? Does it mean that they earn less money? Does it mean they have less meaningful relationships? I understand the mechanisms behind marijuana use, but what is the real effect on a person's life?

From the linked article

> Heavy marijuana use in adolescence or early adulthood has been associated with a dismal set of life outcomes including poor school performance, higher dropout rates, increased welfare dependence, greater unemployment and lower life satisfaction.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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>Vaping of marijuana was at the root of a public health crisis that unfolded this summer The fact that it takes the author two more paragraphs to elucidate that the illness was in fact linked to bootleg, vitamin E-containing cartridges is disappointing, but not surprisingly. That fact seems really material to the argument.

there's definitely a big push from entrenched industries that will suffer with marijuana's legality, and Boomer's treating it like a taboo. the front runner for the LIBERAL party in America is anti weed ffs.

Most of the democratic party is conservative.
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