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Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by jklinger410 »

yonaguska wrote: post #29
jbob2000 wrote: post #22

Earlier quoted context omitted.

That's great, but what does that actually mean for someone? Does it mean that they are less happy? Does it mean that they earn less money? Does it mean they have less meaningful relationships? I understand the mechanisms behind marijuana use, but what is the real effect on a person's life?

From the linked article > Heavy marijuana use in adolescence or early adulthood has been associated with a dismal set of life outcomes including poor school performance, higher dropout rates, increased welfare dependence, greater unemployment and lower life satisfaction.

Considering that Marijuana is illegal, this seems impossible to prove.

Show me the development of a teen in a society where open marijuana consumption is a non-issue to compare against.

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Post by thedaemon »

jdmg94 wrote: post #20
wbronitsky wrote: post #3

The article starts with something that is, by most accounts, harm reduction among teenagers: “Teenagers are drinking less alcohol, smoking fewer cigarettes and trying fewer hard drugs, new federal survey data shows. But these public health gains have been offset by a sharp increase in vaping of marijuana and nicotine..." The statistics, unused in this article, are quite clear: alcohol, tobacco and hard drugs more har…

it is clear that the NYT wants society to go back to the cocked up 80s

*coked

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by throwaway07Ju19 »

lacker wrote: post #32

This is great news. Vaping is far better for your health than alcohol or cigarettes.

"Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars" is objectively not great news. Subjectively it might be great news if the vaping THC dose was low, but it is not.

There is no technology that makes alcohol 100X stronger for todays teen than what it has been historically. But that's not true for THC products. On a personal note, I lost my hearing in one ear immediately after trying a strong MJ product. I just assumed it was congestion at the time but 10 months later I still have 70% hearing loss. I don't share this story with anyone because speaking ill of THC is heresy these days and a sure way to get downvoted.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

Pigo wrote: post #15
anyanswers wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> weed is certainly the weakest of drugs (including alcohol) wrt harm for the body. is the brain a part of the body? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/ https://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain

I know people who are extremely dependent on weed, who will have anxiety attacks without it. It's less dangerous than most drugs, but there are people who are important to me that I wish could function without it. I'm talking grown adults, with families, who do nothing but play video games. Their problems would exist without the weed, but it seems to play a part in their stagnation. I guess I just don't know that man…

"... who will have anxiety attacks without it."

Honestly, I've met many daily smokers in my life. Heck, I've been one off and on and tend to like to do it most weekends. I greatly prefer it to alcohol.Most folks can quit quite easily: At most, a few weeks of decreased appetite and trouble falling asleep. The worst effects wear off in the first week. The few folks I've met that have trouble without it have mental health issues, such as anxiety attacks. The worst thing about that situation is that one has to be able to find decent medical care and risk getting anxiety attacks - which I've read are horribly scary - to feel comfortable giving up smoking. And even then they might find that the smoking helps the best with the fewest side effects...unfortunately.

Also, most adults I've met who smoke regularly do all the family stuff just fine. They work, they play with their kids (more happily when a little stoned!), and so on. I mean, sure, it makes you more happy with a slightly messier house and more happy just being, but the other thing with that lowered happiness thresh hold is being happier when going on walks or playing boring kids games. Sure, happier with a slightly messier house but also happier to do the cleaning. Happier to eat more healthily, and so on.

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Post by newman8r »

throwaway07Ju19 wrote: post #44
lacker wrote: post #32

This is great news. Vaping is far better for your health than alcohol or cigarettes.

"Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars" is objectively not great news. Subjectively it might be great news if the vaping THC dose was low, but it is not. There is no technology that makes alcohol 100X stronger for todays teen than what it has been historically. But that's not true for THC products. On a personal note, I lost my hearing in one ear immediately after trying a strong MJ product. I just assumed it was congestion at…

I've never heard of anything like that happening (and admittedly I'm skeptical) - can you expand on the event that caused you to lose your hearing? What did your doctors say about it?

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Post by omarchowdhury »

rriepe wrote: post #27
jbob2000 wrote: post #14

Earlier quoted context omitted.

What are the side effects of this system developing incorrectly?

If you smoke heavily and quit, your endocannabinoid system underperforms by about 20% for two or three weeks. It basically dulls pleasure in everything, producing anhedonia, depressed appetite and irritability. It impacts sleep negatively too.

How long does it take for full recovery?

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by guelo »

kalessin wrote: post #12
whalesalad wrote: post #5

The thing that sucks here is the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC and everything to do with vaping a black market product that has shitty ingredients in it. I live in CA where it is becoming more and more regulated. I have a 'church' down the street where I can buy stuff at a steeeep discount (no tax, lower prices)... but I go to the regulated places the next town over (higher taxes, higher prices…

I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I would not dismiss teen smoking/vaping as a public health concern, it's not just about counterfeiting, I think we need better education about the risks and ben…

Pro-legalization activists always over-claim marijuana's safety which has led to the claimed safety entering pop culture and becoming widely believed. The truth is that there is little solid research into the question.
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