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Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by stevenwoo »

sysbin wrote: post #8

The piece is built for fear mongering but I'm curious how the developing brain of an adolescent will be changed from constant marijuana use and compared to if it had never happened. I'm guessing how the drug is used would also be important in the longterm outcome because someone using it to help with anxiety might benefit compared to a developing brain under a lot of anxiety.

overview of studies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/ Every measurement of brain function decreased significantly with marijuana use, long term abstention seemed to clear up some problems, though physical changes in brain did not go away in users who started as adolescents, there were long term permanent changes to brain function.

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Post by double0jimb0 »

Pigo wrote: post #15
anyanswers wrote: post #7

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> weed is certainly the weakest of drugs (including alcohol) wrt harm for the body. is the brain a part of the body? https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/ https://www.apa.org/monitor/2015/11/marijuana-brain

I know people who are extremely dependent on weed, who will have anxiety attacks without it. It's less dangerous than most drugs, but there are people who are important to me that I wish could function without it. I'm talking grown adults, with families, who do nothing but play video games. Their problems would exist without the weed, but it seems to play a part in their stagnation. I guess I just don't know that man…

Not my experience observing others. Do you by chance live in a state where marijuana is not yet legalized?

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Post by JimboOmega »

jbob2000 wrote: post #14
kalessin wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I would not dismiss teen smoking/vaping as a public health concern, it's not just about counterfeiting, I think we need better education about the risks and ben…

What are the side effects of this system developing incorrectly?

Those who use heavily in Adolescence can lose something like 6 or 8 IQ points, among other negative effects. Those who start as adults and stop don't seem to have the same effects[1], but it is unclear how much that reflects lower baseline IQ of users vs. the impact of marijuana itself.

[1] https://www.drugabuse.gov/publications/research-reports/mari...

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Post by vorpalhex »

trophycase wrote: post #30
mylons wrote: post #26

Earlier quoted context omitted.

there's definitely a big push from entrenched industries that will suffer with marijuana's legality, and Boomer's treating it like a taboo. the front runner for the LIBERAL party in America is anti weed ffs.

Most of the democratic party is conservative.

Your personal Overton window is likely extremely liberal/progressive and outside the mainstream.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by Broken_Hippo »

kalessin wrote: post #12
whalesalad wrote: post #5

The thing that sucks here is the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC and everything to do with vaping a black market product that has shitty ingredients in it. I live in CA where it is becoming more and more regulated. I have a 'church' down the street where I can buy stuff at a steeeep discount (no tax, lower prices)... but I go to the regulated places the next town over (higher taxes, higher prices…

I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I would not dismiss teen smoking/vaping as a public health concern, it's not just about counterfeiting, I think we need better education about the risks and ben…

I'm very much for pro-fact-based drug education. Not just for THC, but for the most common things that folks can come into contact with. No scare tactics, just answering questions like what happens to one's body, what "high" feels like, realistic methods of ingestion, and benefits.

Unfortunately, the greater public - the government at least - hasn't been so keen on such things because the focus is more on keeping drugs a scary evil. Even current drug education is such, though thankfully it isn't so "Drugs are bad, mkay?" as it was during the 'just say no' heydays in the 80's and 90's.

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Post by Donald »

kalessin wrote: post #12
whalesalad wrote: post #5

The thing that sucks here is the health issues have nothing inherently to do with THC and everything to do with vaping a black market product that has shitty ingredients in it. I live in CA where it is becoming more and more regulated. I have a 'church' down the street where I can buy stuff at a steeeep discount (no tax, lower prices)... but I go to the regulated places the next town over (higher taxes, higher prices…

I am not a doctor but from what I have been reading, consuming THC on a regular basis before 21 (the commonly accepted age for the latest stage of brain development) is definitely a bad idea, as it will prevent the endocannabinoid system to develop correctly. I would not dismiss teen smoking/vaping as a public health concern, it's not just about counterfeiting, I think we need better education about the risks and ben…

The brain's corpus callosum continues developing into a person's mid 20's.

Re: Teen Marijuana Vaping Soars, Displacing Other Habits

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Post by sysbin »

stevenwoo wrote: post #31
sysbin wrote: post #8

The piece is built for fear mongering but I'm curious how the developing brain of an adolescent will be changed from constant marijuana use and compared to if it had never happened. I'm guessing how the drug is used would also be important in the longterm outcome because someone using it to help with anxiety might benefit compared to a developing brain under a lot of anxiety.

overview of studies https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC3930618/ Every measurement of brain function decreased significantly with marijuana use, long term abstention seemed to clear up some problems, though physical changes in brain did not go away in users who started as adolescents, there were long term permanent changes to brain function.

Thanks for replying with that research. I'll check it out and I'm not sure why my comment is being downvoted for curiosity.
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