Is there similar research or concern about SiriusXM?
Isn't satellite radio a receive-only system?
The satellite radio you have now is a receive-only system, but SXM is heavily investing in the telematics market as well. Soon it won't be.
What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out
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Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out
#92Earlier quoted context omitted.
Perhaps. I do feel like I am the only sane person I know. I am watching an episode of twilight zone unfold around me.
Yes, that is how being insane feels like.
> Yes, that is how being insane feels like.
Unfortunately it's also what it feels like to be sane in the presence of a cult, so you'll need something else to distinguish the two.
A good method is to measure by which one makes you better off. And since tracking is used for price discrimination and other methods of extracting wealth from you, and screen time is associated with increased anger and depression...
Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out
#93Related story: When I bought my GM truck last year, it came with OnStar. The saleswoman came to the part of the sale where she had to set up my OnStar account. I told the saleswoman that I would not consent to the OnStar trial service. When she tried to cancel it for me through their online portal, she asked for my email address, which was required to cancel the service. I refused to give it to her. She didn't know w…
> I should have just removed the antenna! You should absolutely find the SIM card and remove it. Just because you "disabled" the service doesn't mean they aren't still sending data back.
Any good tips on how to go about that? Is there an effective Google incantation to search for where it could be in a specific brand/make/model of car?
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#94This is the primary reason why I sold my car and went carless the instant that was a feasible thing to do. If I should need to own a car in the future, it will be an older, pre-spying, one.
So what do you do instead? You’re aware that nearly every rideshare app is collecting massive amounts of data right? I’d imagine even many of the larger public transit systems are as well. I guess I’m just not seeing what you gain? Your movements are very likely still being tracked.
For 90% of my transportation needs, I use a bicycle. For the rest, I take a cab. I'm fully aware that my cab rides are tracked.
> I guess I’m just not seeing what you gain? Your movements are very likely still being tracked.
Sure, but there is still great value in reducing the amount of data leakage when possible. And in this case, the data is going to the car manufacturers and the companies they share with (marketers, etc) -- entities that have no legitimate need for any data at all about me.
Cutting them out plugs a large data leak without causing any inconvenience or hassle to me, so why wouldn't I?
Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out
#95The more I hear about how computers are taking over the car market, the more I appreciate my "App" free Honda Fit from 2013.
Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out
#96This is the primary reason why I sold my car and went carless the instant that was a feasible thing to do. If I should need to own a car in the future, it will be an older, pre-spying, one.
So your payment record with Uber or public transport is somehow better? Or you only pay in cash now and only take public transport no planes or trains?
I don't use ride-sharing or public transport. That I occasionally use a cab and fly in no way means that there isn't value in reducing my data leakage in other areas whenever possible.
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#97The article states GM has 11M, 4G enabled vehicles, does this imply it's actively tracking these vehicles? Doesn't this also imply you don't have to be paying for any type of service/connectivity on your end and GM can be paying for the connectivity on theirs and be extracting data unbeknownst to the driver?
Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out
#98The more important thing is what we consent to, during regular maintenance. Can they just suck up all the data and sell it to the highest bidder, or to law enforcement? I sign a multi page agreement every visit, and have never read it's fine print
It is important to read even though they harry you to sign: I caught my dealer sneaking in a clause on the checkout papers that one had to initial to deny during a maintenance trip - it gave them rights to contact me for sales calls; I had been wondering why they had been bugging me on the phone so much recently and realized it was because I had not caught on to this clause in previous trips. The service advisor had bounced over it when trying to get me to sign the checkout papers but nodded glumly when he saw I had initialed it. I used to think the "stealership" label was harsh for dealerships but I can see why it is tempting to apply it.
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#99This is the primary reason why I sold my car and went carless the instant that was a feasible thing to do. If I should need to own a car in the future, it will be an older, pre-spying, one.
You're the first person I've met to claim that their aversion to motorized transportation had a basis in privacy.
We're certainly a tiny minority, but there's a few of us kicking around. As time goes by, I seem to meet more and more.
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#100Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm a londoner and we have here a system of public transport which is controlled by cards ('oyster' cards, RFID credit card sized things - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oyster_card ). Not exactly to address your point but they're a good way of tracking individuals so I always try to pay anonymously (cash) and never register it. I should probably buy a new one every few months but usually forget. FYI anyway. Privacy a…
The same system exists for the Dutch public transport (exactly the same cards). Privacy wise you are able to buy an anonymous card with cash. But ... the operators are phasing out machines which are able to accept cash faster than you can find them and they are idiotically expensive if you want to replace them every few weeks as they are tracking you anyways even on the anonymous cards.
Interestingly, in Japan for my short stay there, I found that the Suica card I needed for public transport could only be purchased and recharged with cash.