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What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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I mean, except Ford and Tesla, none of the American brands are very popular in Europe. I guess this would move affect European and Asian car makers that can collect more data outside of Europe.

Tesla is not popular in Europe. Two orders of magnitude fewer units sold vs the popular brands. http://carsalesbase.com/european-car-sales-analysis-july-aug...

They are quite popular in Norway (https://elbilstatistikk.no/). But of course, we're only a rather small corner of Europe.

Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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Well that shows that you are insane.

Perhaps. I do feel like I am the only sane person I know. I am watching an episode of twilight zone unfold around me.

Yes, that is how being insane feels like.

Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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Related story: When I bought my GM truck last year, it came with OnStar. The saleswoman came to the part of the sale where she had to set up my OnStar account. I told the saleswoman that I would not consent to the OnStar trial service. When she tried to cancel it for me through their online portal, she asked for my email address, which was required to cancel the service. I refused to give it to her. She didn't know w…

I am glad people like you exist in our world.

Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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Perhaps. I do feel like I am the only sane person I know. I am watching an episode of twilight zone unfold around me.

Yes, that is how being insane feels like.

That's fine, provided I get a nice padded cell and keto/paleo friendly foods.

Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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This is the primary reason why I sold my car and went carless the instant that was a feasible thing to do. If I should need to own a car in the future, it will be an older, pre-spying, one.

So what do you do instead? You’re aware that nearly every rideshare app is collecting massive amounts of data right? I’d imagine even many of the larger public transit systems are as well.

I guess I’m just not seeing what you gain? Your movements are very likely still being tracked.

Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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Related story: When I bought my GM truck last year, it came with OnStar. The saleswoman came to the part of the sale where she had to set up my OnStar account. I told the saleswoman that I would not consent to the OnStar trial service. When she tried to cancel it for me through their online portal, she asked for my email address, which was required to cancel the service. I refused to give it to her. She didn't know w…

How should they handle a fraudulent attempt to cancel someone else's service?

Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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Related story: When I bought my GM truck last year, it came with OnStar. The saleswoman came to the part of the sale where she had to set up my OnStar account. I told the saleswoman that I would not consent to the OnStar trial service. When she tried to cancel it for me through their online portal, she asked for my email address, which was required to cancel the service. I refused to give it to her. She didn't know w…

How should they handle a fraudulent attempt to cancel someone else's service?

If the service was never set up, then there's nothing to cancel (other than a demo which I assume is easy to turn back on). If the service has already been set up, then they already have your personally identifying information and there is no problem reaffirming who you are.

For what it's worth, I've spent the last week disabling Car-Net on my car. The number of people who told me it's impossible and that it can't be done is a little upsetting. I really wanted to just manually disable it myself, but it seemed like I'd have to risk losing my warranty if I did so.

EDIT: To be clear, when I say disable, I mean it is impossible for Car-Net to contact my car or for my car to send out information wirelessly. I'd guess ~99% of dealers (I honestly don't think that is an exaggeration) have actually never performed this service before for anyone, and the vast majority are not even aware it is possible.

Re: What does your car know about you? We hacked a Chevy to find out

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post #78

Related story: When I bought my GM truck last year, it came with OnStar. The saleswoman came to the part of the sale where she had to set up my OnStar account. I told the saleswoman that I would not consent to the OnStar trial service. When she tried to cancel it for me through their online portal, she asked for my email address, which was required to cancel the service. I refused to give it to her. She didn't know w…

How should they handle a fraudulent attempt to cancel someone else's service?

I think I saw this a little differently, the account the user was trying to cancel shouldn't have had any information attached to it anyway. So by OnStar asking for personal identification on an account that (probably) doesn't have any information to begin with seems a bit ridiculous. So to prevent fraud, I can imagine most users who actually use the account already have real information attached to it. So pushing for personal identification before removal makes much more sense in that case.
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