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India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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Yeah Gujarat 2002 was in Pakistan right/??

And you remember what started it right?? 60 innocent Hindus, mostly women and children - were burned alive by muslim rioting mob.

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For all the messy comments against Indian government, To make things clear. CAB (Citizenship Amendment Bill) made for illegal migrants from Pakistan, Afghanistan, Bangladesh (Three Islamic countries). Who is an illegal migrant: Anybody who came to India after 1971 from these countries. To whom does this rule apply: Illegal migrants who entered India till 2014. What does it say: If one came to India before 2014 and st…

Why you try to repeat the Indian government propaganda. Just make one correction first Bangladesh is a secular nation like India with Muslim majority. This is the wisdom and adherence to secularism of India’s administration during that time (not sure but it was Indira Gandhi at that time, who insisted that Bangladesh should be a secular country like India, after it was freed by Indian military). This was overturned b…

Persecuted muslims have more than 50 islamic countries to go to. Persecuted Sikhs, Jains, Buddhists, Hindus have only India.

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There was mass forced migration when the partition happened, so there might have lived more than 23% non-Muslims on Pakistan’s territory before.

Certainly, that can’t be used as an argument against persecution of non Muslims - the country didn’t even exist then!

It can, because Jinnah himself had assured all minorities of Pakistan the safety. AFTER partition, the rioting mobs killed and drove out Hindus, later Ahmadiyyas, and more recently Christians.

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> yes shooting on sight those trying to illegally cross is 100% OK I'm old enough to remember the Berlin Wall and its extension across Eastern Europe, where the willingness to murder civilians who tried to cross it was regarded as an indicator of how totalitarian Communism was.

While i do not want to defend the position of anovikov, i have to note there is a big difference in border protection against entering a country and leaving a country. This is e.g. explicitly stated in UDHR, which recongizes a human right to leave any country, and only right to enter a country of citizenship.

The border situation with communist countries was significant not only it proves intent of these countries to shoot on those trying to cross borders, but mainly it proves that situation there was so bad that people trying to leave even if that means risking death in border crossing.

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This reply is incredibly lacking in empathy. It's horrifying to regard genocide and death so nonchalantly.

That's the typical mentality of Modi supporters. This is the reason they're called Modi worshippers

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HN doesn't prohibit people from being wrong or unquestioningly repeating government propaganda so long as they don't exclusively use HN for ideological battle and respect the other rules. So if you want an Xist to get banned, you don't need to provide references that they support X, but that they do so in a way that is against the rules (such as exclusively posting about X). Also, you shouldn't do that in the comment…

I mailed dang and he didn't agree with me and I respect that, since I agree with his assertion that I was being aggressive which fueled ideological battle even more. Some of the accounts that I called out are again in here repeating same governmental propaganda. Let's see if something can be done about them.

And you'll notice that they're new accounts. Probably the same person creating multiple accounts

Best course of action is destroy them ideologically and let other sane people downvote them to hell

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I wonder why such a misleading comment has become a top comment. > Why segregation based on religion? Because of persecution of minorities in Pakistan, Bangladesh, Afghanistan. Well, we have documented evidence of Shri Lankan Hindu Tamils being prosecuted in Shri Lanka. Why are those Hindus not included? Also if you read this link below, Shia Muslims have been ruled non Muslims. So they r not Muslims acc to Pakistan…

> Well, we have documented evidence of Shri Lankan Hindu Tamils being prosecuted in Shri Lanka. Why are those Hindus not included? > Also if you read this link below, Shia Muslims have been ruled non Muslims. So they r not Muslims acc to Pakistan itself but yet they're not included https://www.asiatimes.com/2019/07/opinion/pakistans-religiou... . The amendment doesn't touch upon linguistic or sectarian oppression. It…

Huh? Are these sects of a religion or are they an independent entity?

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> For a government which has attained a historical majority for the second time, just imagine the impact they can have if they focussed this energy on improving economic and human-life indicators instead. The government in its election pitch made this one of the major points that they would execute if they came to power. So please don't be under the assumption that the people that voted don't want this to be implemen…

This assumes people vote on election manifestos, which is far from the truth, at least in India.

How many people who voted for the current government do you think would know what NRC meant when they voted? Infact, does the general mass understand it even to date?

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Yeah Gujarat 2002 was in Pakistan right/??

And you remember what started it right?? 60 innocent Hindus, mostly women and children - were burned alive by muslim rioting mob.

Depends on which investigation one chooses to believe the one presided over by Modi shill or multiple independent ones that gave forensic evidence that the fire started inside and was likely an accident. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godhra_train_burning#Banerjee_...
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