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India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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This is a monstrous law. The first step is to make millions of people illegal. Next is to give all but Muslims citizenship. Muslims would be stripped off their right to vote. Even hitler would be inspired from such evil plans. (Also from the comments everyone can see how heartless people can be)

I don't think Hitler ever bothered by passing bills and announcing to the world what he was about to do.

He did indeed.

https://www.bl.uk/learning/histcitizen/voices/info/decrees/d...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anti-Jewish_legislation_in_pre...

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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It's rare to see such rabid government propaganda on HN, like some of the posts in this thread. The activity in this thread is comparable to pro-government posts seen on threads about Chinese internment camps and the Social Credit System. There are plenty of disgusting comments to peruse here, though I'd like to highlight this one: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21823490 > I don't really understand where the ge…

Every time there is a thread about the Indian government doing something questionable, there are people here ready to justify it and defend the government.

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This seems like a really misinformed comment. Why would the protests be occurring most strongly in predominately Muslim areas? This is backed up by numerous international media reports, including comments from people who are protesting. "NEW DELHI—Protests against a new citizenship law favoring non-Muslim immigrants erupted in violence in a Muslim-dominated part of the Indian capital where communal tensions have flar…

You forgot one important detail. All those three countries have Islam as their state religion and Muslims are unlikely to be persecuted there on religious grounds. And while Police action on Jamia students is condemnable, it must be noted that protestors did get violent and the Police had to resort to strong measures as a response.

> All those three countries have Islam as their state religion and Muslims are unlikely to be persecuted there on religious grounds.

This is not true at all. There are minority sects within Islam, depending on the country. The followers of those do get persecuted on religious grounds (look up Shias, Ahmediyas, etc.) by the majority.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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This seems like a really misinformed comment. Why would the protests be occurring most strongly in predominately Muslim areas? This is backed up by numerous international media reports, including comments from people who are protesting. "NEW DELHI—Protests against a new citizenship law favoring non-Muslim immigrants erupted in violence in a Muslim-dominated part of the Indian capital where communal tensions have flar…

Because India is providing refuge to Hindus and other minorities who are being persecuted in neighboring Islamic nations. In Pakistan Hindu teenagers are regularly abducted, converted to Islam and married away. India is giving refuge to these people. Muslims are not similarly persecuted in Islamic nations.

> Muslims are not similarly persecuted in Islamic nations.

As I responded to another similar comment, this is not true at all. There are minority sects within Islam, depending on the country. The followers of those do get persecuted on religious grounds (look up Shias, Ahmediyas, etc.) by the majority.

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> why base it on religion? Because religion matters. In this case, islam has a millenarian, worldwide record of massacring non-muslims so it doesn’t seem far fetched to impose boundaries based on this criterion. Also the Pakistan+Bangladesh/India partition was made on this religious clivage, so muslims have two others countries to choose from. As someone who almost lost a friend in a jihadist terror attack, I’m reall…

Sometimes it's Muslims doing the massacring, sometimes it's Muslims being attacked by governments (Uyghur), by Buddhists (Burma), etc. It's almost as if religion is not really the issue, just a proxy for expressing other sentiments...

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Ironically, the current President of India, Ram Nath Kovind who's been with BJP since 1991 is Dalit (lower caste).

Yeah, he's there exactly for this talking point.

Started from the bottom now my whole team fucking here

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Your statement goes completely against Indian election results. Re-electing somebody with such a huge majority clearly states, people of India are happy with present government. Don't put up your propaganda as voice Indians. Being an Indian, I'm very happy with BJP, and I'm not Hindu.

We know you are a Hindu, you are a brahmin and you support BJP. Please don't try the IT Cell tactics here. This election was through EVMs not through people

Seems like, you have lot of hate for Modi and BJP.

I'm a Roman Catholic for your confirmation.

I don't belong to BJP IT cell, you can search on google with my username, I have accounts in many development related sites from long back.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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> why base it on religion? Because religion matters. In this case, islam has a millenarian, worldwide record of massacring non-muslims so it doesn’t seem far fetched to impose boundaries based on this criterion. Also the Pakistan+Bangladesh/India partition was made on this religious clivage, so muslims have two others countries to choose from. As someone who almost lost a friend in a jihadist terror attack, I’m reall…

Religions are (emotionally charged) opinions and as such they are not beyond criticism. You don't have to be neutral towards any particular opinion, belief system or culture.

But if we let those legitimate preferences and biases override _individual_ human rights, then we are going down a very dangerous road indeed.

Seeking refuge when we are persecuted is a right that each of us has individually and unconditionally. That's why you are not allowed to apply it selectively based on religion. This is a moral imperative and it is the law.

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> why base it on religion? Because religion matters. In this case, islam has a millenarian, worldwide record of massacring non-muslims so it doesn’t seem far fetched to impose boundaries based on this criterion. Also the Pakistan+Bangladesh/India partition was made on this religious clivage, so muslims have two others countries to choose from. As someone who almost lost a friend in a jihadist terror attack, I’m reall…

Sometimes it's Muslims doing the massacring, sometimes it's Muslims being attacked by governments (Uyghur), by Buddhists (Burma), etc. It's almost as if religion is not really the issue, just a proxy for expressing other sentiments...

Honest question: What other sentiments are you hinting at ?
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