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India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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This is a monstrous law. The first step is to make millions of people illegal. Next is to give all but Muslims citizenship. Muslims would be stripped off their right to vote. Even hitler would be inspired from such evil plans. (Also from the comments everyone can see how heartless people can be)

How is CAA monstrous when it actually expedites the process of gaining citizenship for refugees?

Monstrous cause its about disenfranchising Muslims.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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You know Muslims, Christians and Jews have the same god? It's the prophets that they disagree on. I have no stake in this argument, I am an atheist, but please, a little respect for the beliefs of others.

I believe the argument isn't so much about divinity identity, but rather about ideological imperialism.

> but rather about ideological imperialism

Christian history (crusades, Latin America, US history) would like to have a word with you.

Most major religions of this world are guilty of imperialism.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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We know you are a Hindu, you are a brahmin and you support BJP. Please don't try the IT Cell tactics here. This election was through EVMs not through people

Ironically, the current President of India, Ram Nath Kovind who's been with BJP since 1991 is Dalit (lower caste).

Yeah, he's there exactly for this talking point.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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post #187

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You know Muslims, Christians and Jews have the same god? It's the prophets that they disagree on. I have no stake in this argument, I am an atheist, but please, a little respect for the beliefs of others.

I believe the argument isn't so much about divinity identity, but rather about ideological imperialism.

Say "we have our own ethnic identity and don't stray outside of it, yet we are fruitful", that's 99% of what any ethnicity needs to innoculate itself against slow-motion intifadas.

That's the fear, the ideological imperialism going hand-in-hand with ethnic displacement, and that happens everywhere not just with Muslims, it's just explicit religious doctrine for them.

Western/European countries could do with a serious fast on shame, ever since the second world war it's like a lust for shame and death has been injected in.

I don't love or even like Muslims, and have very little desire to understand them! And I love that I live in a place where I won't even be harassed for saying that, at most I'll be disinvited from a party.

They're just people from a culture I don't understand and I'm totally content not understanding most all cultures and most all people, not that I have much choice in the matter because I'm not a global hivemind, I can't be everywhere at once and even if I could it would be a lot of work to make that a comfortable experience.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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This is a monstrous law. The first step is to make millions of people illegal. Next is to give all but Muslims citizenship. Muslims would be stripped off their right to vote. Even hitler would be inspired from such evil plans. (Also from the comments everyone can see how heartless people can be)

I don't think Hitler ever bothered by passing bills and announcing to the world what he was about to do.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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> why base it on religion? Because religion matters. In this case, islam has a millenarian, worldwide record of massacring non-muslims so it doesn’t seem far fetched to impose boundaries based on this criterion. Also the Pakistan+Bangladesh/India partition was made on this religious clivage, so muslims have two others countries to choose from. As someone who almost lost a friend in a jihadist terror attack, I’m reall…

Pakistan protest: Patients die as lawyers ransack Lahore hospital https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50757383

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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post #187

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I believe the argument isn't so much about divinity identity, but rather about ideological imperialism.

> but rather about ideological imperialism Christian history (crusades, Latin America, US history) would like to have a word with you. Most major religions of this world are guilty of imperialism.

I agree, but we collectively seem to agree that was a bad thing. Is it less evil now? Why should a similar wrong be tolerated if we recognise the damage it has caused in the past?

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Yeah Gujarat 2002 was in Pakistan right/??

Considering how you continue to bring up an issue that was disproved multiple times at every level (That too during Congress rule so you cannot accuse Modi of manipulating investigating agencies and courts), It might have been.

Continuing to harp on an non-issue like this in public is the reason why the voters keep voting Modi in and the opposition out.

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

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> Pakistan, Non-Muslim population fell from 23% to 3%. This is a straight up propaganda and an outright lie [0]. The population of non-Muslims in Pakistan has always hovered around 3.5%. Census 1951 - 3.4% non-Muslims (oldest) Census 1998 - 3.7% non-Muslims (newest) [0] https://www.indiatoday.in/india/story/pakistan-bangladesh-no...

There was mass forced migration when the partition happened, so there might have lived more than 23% non-Muslims on Pakistan’s territory before.

Certainly, that can’t be used as an argument against persecution of non Muslims - the country didn’t even exist then!

Re: India builds detention camps for up to 1.9M people not on citizens register

#210

This is a monstrous law. The first step is to make millions of people illegal. Next is to give all but Muslims citizenship. Muslims would be stripped off their right to vote. Even hitler would be inspired from such evil plans. (Also from the comments everyone can see how heartless people can be)

I don't think Hitler ever bothered by passing bills and announcing to the world what he was about to do.

Yeah he would have probably lasted even longer had he followed this path. This is much more devious
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