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Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#51

Nice, Intellij (avec GoPlugin) is the only dev tool I pay for out of pocket. The vast majority of the company I'm at uses VSCode (for mostly GoLang & Typescript). So I don't want to make the case to have them pay for it. But 40hrs/w of my existance is spent in a IDE/editor and IMO its totally worth it to pay for the one I feel most productive with.

Also paying for Intellij, it's an amazing tool.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#52

I love IntelliJ but I am constantly switching between PyCharm and WebStorm, which is quite annoying since I end up doing python and javascript in both. I wish they one modular product instead of many, many slightly different products. Edit: I'm learning in the comments below that IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate gives you the capabilities of the other products all together. This sounds great! I'm going to try it.

IntelliJ works well for me when I have a repo spanning many languages. I'm not sure if that's what they intend, though!

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#53

I love IntelliJ but I am constantly switching between PyCharm and WebStorm, which is quite annoying since I end up doing python and javascript in both. I wish they one modular product instead of many, many slightly different products. Edit: I'm learning in the comments below that IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate gives you the capabilities of the other products all together. This sounds great! I'm going to try it.

If you use their flagship offering, IntelliJ, it includes language support for Python, Javascript, and many other languages either directly or via a plugin that replaces most of the respective functionality of Webstorm, Pycharm and Rubymine. Just some niche features (like a C debugger only found in CLion) are unique to the other IDEs IIRC

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#54
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They also still give away their entire suite of products to students at no cost!

Several students tell me that it is only the full-version for free for a year, then it is subscription-based at a discount.

I'll second detaro, when I was a student, I just had to re-verify and I think re-activate, though I believe the re-activation is automatic if activated with an account rather than a license key.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#55
post #41

The single most feature I hate about their products is their reliance on JVM, which makes them memory hungry and slow on older machines. :)

Agreed. I hate using Java apps on the desktop. It is OK if your target is java itself, but I wouldn't start a java app to develop Python or some other language.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#56
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Jetbrains products are awesome though. I used to use a heavily customized vim which was a pretty good setup, but the things a jetbrains ide can do are just much better than what my custom setup could do. I pay for a personal subscription and couldn't be happier. I will recommend everyone to atleast give their products a try. They have a free trial period.

The community edition is Apache licensed, https://github.com/JetBrains/intellij-community it has no trial period, you own it forever.

You can build it from source also - I did it several years ago, easy enough.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

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post #21

Earlier quoted context omitted.

How great is the 32 GB of ram? I have a 2017 macbook pro. I don't ever develop on a desktop machine to be able to know what I'm missing out on by only having 16 GB.

I run on 16GB at work and 8 at home. At home I run into issues with large Factorio factories or if I have too many browser tabs open (tbh that's an issue with me, not with my system, but more RAM would be a workaround for it), but at work the amount feels quite luxurious. I never got close to running out even with multiple VMs running at the same time, so I don't really see the need for more than 16. Maybe specialize…

If you keep tabs open for days and don't open them, like me, you might want to try a tab suspending extension. There's noticable lag when I open a tab I haven't opened in hours, but my FF on Ubuntu is fine with ~100 open tabs.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#58

I love IntelliJ but I am constantly switching between PyCharm and WebStorm, which is quite annoying since I end up doing python and javascript in both. I wish they one modular product instead of many, many slightly different products. Edit: I'm learning in the comments below that IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate gives you the capabilities of the other products all together. This sounds great! I'm going to try it.

Intellij Ultimate is all of them together. For example I don't use GoLand, I use Intellij Ultimate with the go plugin.

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#59

I love IntelliJ but I am constantly switching between PyCharm and WebStorm, which is quite annoying since I end up doing python and javascript in both. I wish they one modular product instead of many, many slightly different products. Edit: I'm learning in the comments below that IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate gives you the capabilities of the other products all together. This sounds great! I'm going to try it.

Isn't that IDEA ultimate with the Python/JavaScript plugins installed?

Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised

#60
post #39

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The new breed of garbage collectors may change this significantly for the better. They need to be explicitly enabled, but there is a GC (G1) that may be better suited for desktop applications (low latency pauses, relinquishes memory to the OS more frequently while idle, etc.) available in Java 11.

It's been the default GC since Java 9 https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage-first_collector

Ah, I'm confusing its availability with Shenandoah and zgc.

Unfortunately, the last time I used IntelliiJ it came with its own JDK8. Is that still the case, I wonder?

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