The single most feature I hate about their products is their reliance on JVM, which makes them memory hungry and slow on older machines. :)
JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
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#42They also still give away their entire suite of products to students at no cost!
Several students tell me that it is only the full-version for free for a year, then it is subscription-based at a discount.
If you are still a student at the end of the year, you just need to verify your student status again to get another one. Once you're not a student anymore, there's the discount offer.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#43I love IntelliJ but I am constantly switching between PyCharm and WebStorm, which is quite annoying since I end up doing python and javascript in both. I wish they one modular product instead of many, many slightly different products.
Edit: I'm learning in the comments below that IntelliJ IDEA Ultimate gives you the capabilities of the other products all together. This sounds great! I'm going to try it.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#44They clearly are the state of the art of IDEs for most mainstream languages nowadays. It's easy for young developers to overlook the power of intellij IDES, and to use the "sexier" vscode. But clearly for any medium to large project, learning to master intellijs are one of the highest ROI that a developer can get. Of course, it should be mixed with ideaVim.
I generally prefer JetBrains' IDEs over vscode. However, vscode's remote editing capabilities just tipped the scale for me. Not too long ago I bought a "powerful" laptop (expensive!). It still chocked frequently when running multiple vm's, docker machines and/or multiple "auto-compile watchers". Then I tried vscode remote editing. I just run the browser & vscode in the laptop, and everything else on the desktop. It m…
JetBrains also has remote editing, but it's not as smooth as vscode's from what I heard.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#45Earlier quoted context omitted.
Thank Java.
The new breed of garbage collectors may change this significantly for the better. They need to be explicitly enabled, but there is a GC (G1) that may be better suited for desktop applications (low latency pauses, relinquishes memory to the OS more frequently while idle, etc.) available in Java 11.
It's been the default GC since Java 9
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Garbage-first_collector
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#46I badly want to use intellij for Rust and other languages. But the issue I smash up against is that years of Vscode + my customizations has made using any other editor terribly clunky. I can spend hours customizing the controls and UI but I still feel like someone handed me the keys to some old car made in a country that doesn't exist anymore. This in part revealed to me the cost associated with all the editor custom…
Oh boy. This is how I feel any time I touch a coworker's computer to try and peer program or help them out. I have so many shortcuts (Keyboard Maestro), workflows (Alfred 3), keybinding changes (Karabiner), and utility programs (Amethyst, Spectacle) on top of this IDE thing (I use intelliJ and coworkers use VSCode) that I immediately press a bunch of keys (out of muscle memory) and invariably something completely une…
If you pair program a lot you could export your Intellij settings and switch to that profile when you're on their machine. But it sounds like that only handles some of the changes that you'd need (you could move any of your Intellij related key bindings from Karabiner into Intellij to get a little closer).
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#47Earlier quoted context omitted.
I recently went ahead and purchased theyr3 full product line, because I figured there are several I would end up wanting to use and it was just cheaper that way. The reason I bought it though, was specifically for CLion. I figured having a full featured IDE would make it much easier to browse and understand large C or C++ projects, but sadly it seems to only support CMake projects.
I also tried their CLion and was somewhat disappointed. Slow in places, sometime stalls, bugs here and there. Ended up using CodeLite and Qt designer
I have used CLion, and would say JetBrains did an excellent job with making a C IDE. The issue is that C is not much of an "IDE language"; my experience has always been to just use a text editor (vim or vscode), and it seems to be the same for most C devs I know. Looking at newer languages, they seem to pair closely with IDEs; I'm still not a big IDE guy, but most use them for python, java, etc. I'm not enough of an expert to quantify the reasons behind this, but I think it's hard to build a stand-out good IDE for a language with which IDEs often aren't used or are just used as glorified text editors.
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#48Nice, Intellij (avec GoPlugin) is the only dev tool I pay for out of pocket.
The vast majority of the company I'm at uses VSCode (for mostly GoLang & Typescript). So I don't want to make the case to have them pay for it. But 40hrs/w of my existance is spent in a IDE/editor and IMO its totally worth it to pay for the one I feel most productive with.
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#49I badly want to use intellij for Rust and other languages. But the issue I smash up against is that years of Vscode + my customizations has made using any other editor terribly clunky. I can spend hours customizing the controls and UI but I still feel like someone handed me the keys to some old car made in a country that doesn't exist anymore. This in part revealed to me the cost associated with all the editor custom…
Can anyone comment on the state of Vim emulation in Vscode? I'm in Android Studio largely because of its support for my .vimrc, without which I can not live. But I see[1] that there have been recent commits related to this in Vscode. How good is it? Other thoughtful comparisons between life in JetBrains world vs Vscode welcome as well. [1] https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/commit/3158194561fa2fba921b...
Vim support is still pretty meh, though better than some others. The onivim guys are still plugging away at libvim [0], and I'm really hoping once it's stable, someone integrates it with vscode and other editors.
Re: JetBrains: $270M revenue, 405K paying users, $0 raised
#50I badly want to use intellij for Rust and other languages. But the issue I smash up against is that years of Vscode + my customizations has made using any other editor terribly clunky. I can spend hours customizing the controls and UI but I still feel like someone handed me the keys to some old car made in a country that doesn't exist anymore. This in part revealed to me the cost associated with all the editor custom…
Can anyone comment on the state of Vim emulation in Vscode? I'm in Android Studio largely because of its support for my .vimrc, without which I can not live. But I see[1] that there have been recent commits related to this in Vscode. How good is it? Other thoughtful comparisons between life in JetBrains world vs Vscode welcome as well. [1] https://github.com/VSCodeVim/Vim/commit/3158194561fa2fba921b...
I use both and have contributed to the IntelliJ extension. I haven’t noticed any functional difference between the two extensions and they both fit all my use cases.