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It’s likely by this pedantic definition that no automobile could ever be brutalist. Architectural gatekeeping.
As a person with personal interest in visual arts I never have seen the appeal of appearance of many popular "great looking" cars of today's variety. Even muscle cars and luxury models. Cars up to 70's and 80's were really nice and aesthetically pleasing, and I find the Elon Musk's vision to be really nice and refreshing. It might be that I'm partial to science fiction in general, but I really would like to see this…
A lot of cars today are designed around regulations and with aerodynamics in mind. For example in Europe you can't have a spoiler that could catch a cyclist. And it is prefered that there is room between the hood and motor in case of an impact with a pedestrian. This is why a lot of cars start to look the same. This is also why the cybertruck in it's current form will never be allowed in Europe. A door that doesn't d…
Even without Tesla, a change is in dire need.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/coe1mnbupjv8qbe/1_uEe9rvbQB8XM6uYW...
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"As a person with personal interest in visual arts" With all due respects, isn't this an entirely meaningless saying? Everyone has an interest in aesthetics and visual appeal, and has a subjective opinion on what they find appealing. We are a social species so invariably people infect each other's opinion so we have trends and movements towards/from opinions, but everyone has equal legitimacy in their opinion on this…
> but everyone has equal legitimacy in their opinion on this. Why is everyone's opinion equal? When building a bridge, is the opinion of a civil engineer equal to that of a cook? No, clearly not - but we only recognize this because the effects of building faulty bridges are obvious and immediately noticeable, whereas the effects of cultural ignorance are far more subtle and wide-reaching. The fields of art and aesthe…
Have you been to Art Basel or any of the other “important” art events where the “experts” go to opine? The $150k banana taped to the wall? There is an “artwork” in MOMA New York that is literally a giant white wall in which the “artist” shot a BB gun. [1] Much of modern art is a giant MLM scam in which some dealer convinces people that some junkie that dips his penis in paint and touches the tip to a canvas is somehow the next Basquiat. A banana sold at Basel this year for $150k. Then some “performance artist” ate the banana, but then the artist said that it’s ok to replace the banana. What the heck just happened? These are the people who’s opinions on art should be respected? I am a very minor league art collector and sloshing through the liquified excrement of an art show is both hilarious and disheartening: hilarious because people will actually spend $50k on used toilet tissue stapled to a wall if the dealer spins a good enough story, and it’s disheartening because there is some real talent out there that doesn’t have the benefit of professional carnaval barkers or flim-flam men to make them famous.
Art absolutely is a popularity contest and always has been.
This chart [1] is awesome reminder of a current state in car design. Even without Tesla, a change is in dire need. https://www.dropbox.com/s/coe1mnbupjv8qbe/1_uEe9rvbQB8XM6uYW...
It’s likely by this pedantic definition that no automobile could ever be brutalist. Architectural gatekeeping.
I find this definition the opposite of pedantic, paying attention to the spirit of the thing rather than the smaller details. Brutalism is not really a style for personal cars, and certainly the entire Elon Musk saga is non-Brutalist as you can get.
Though I suppose a truck with a steel reinforced poured-concrete chassis is a little beyond even Musk's olympian ambitions.
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>It's up to each person to make the effort to grow their understanding, which requires study and self-development. That's true, but it's falling into the same problem I was trying to tease out of GP, which is whether an argument can be produced that study and self-development will lead to one appreciating Bach over Harry Potter. We say that spherical earth theories are superior to flat earth ones not because individu…
> That's true, but it's falling into the same problem I was trying to tease out of GP, which is whether an argument can be produced that study and self-development will lead to one appreciating Bach over Harry Potter. An historical/statistical argument can surely be made. You seldom see people who have studied aesthetics, music, literature, etc, preferring Harry Potter over Bach. You'll see many more who seldom read…
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“The truck is consumerist, whereas brutalism’s monumentality is civic. The truck’s boldness serves the bravado of an individual, whereas brutalism’s visual power was meant to project the shared dignity of the public realm.” Literally no product you can buy would meet this definition. I guess you could make a brutalist city bus?
> "the shared dignity of the public realm" That is a peculiar way to describe what Brutalism projects. I've always thought that it projected the sinister power of bureaucracy, and that was why government officials fell for it as hard as they did. (I know you're just quoting the author.)
By the express wording of the quote, it doesn't describe what Brutalism projects but what Brutalism was meant to project.
A pickup truck is more Brutalist than the cybertruck.
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