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Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

stan_rogers wrote: post #61
rodw wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

You're not wrong, but to be honest, no, not very much. It might make an appreciable difference in "conversions" (to using the app) for the Hacker News crowd, but I'm not sure if it's justified in the general case, for these reasons: 1. A lot of the features are oriented around having some identity. There would need to be a lot of special cases in the code to support account-free use. 2. Ultimately the app will be som…

I'd immediately delete it. And I have done so with several other applications. Time-limited trials don't need anything other than the time limit and usefulness to make paying customers out of trial downloads.

Honestly, though. Did you download this app?

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by stan_rogers »

rodw wrote: post #101
stan_rogers wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I'd immediately delete it. And I have done so with several other applications. Time-limited trials don't need anything other than the time limit and usefulness to make paying customers out of trial downloads.

Honestly, though. Did you download this app?

No, but that's because I saw this thread first. There was no point. And it would have been immediately deleted as soon as it asked for info had I downloaded it.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by royletron »

rodw wrote: post #99
royletron wrote: post #94

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Also suffering the same problem. Did this get resolved? I noticed that Catalina has a security panel for what can and can't access the microphone (god bless it), but can't find anyway of registering FatPick inside of that panel.

Per https://support.apple.com/guide/mac-help/control-access-to-y... you should be able to grant the FATpick app access to your microphone from that panel. It is likely you'll need to "install" the app (drag it to your Applications folder as prompted in the DMG), not just run the app directly.

I have the app in the Applications folder, but I am still not seeing it in the microphone access panel...

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

#104

Post by PhaedrusV »

I tried importing a tab from ultimate-guitar (.gp4) and after about 10 minutes fatpick notified me that the tab was ready to play, but when I opened it up the tab was empty. The name was imported correctly, but it looked like that was it.

Since this is a semi-established space that you're just putting a few variations on, concur with other posters suggesting you need to reduce friction. There shouldn't need to be a login process to start playing pre-built tabs, and if users can't already see tabs others have uploaded you need that function soonest.

Will check back later, cool idea in general.

In case you're wondering, the tab I tried to upload: https://tabs.ultimate-guitar.com/tab/the_lumineers/ho_hey_gu...

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

#105

Post by rodw »

JustinAiken wrote: post #54

Okay, I'm probably your exact target demographic - I have about 1,300 hours in Rocksmith and I'm obsessed with it, but often find myself wanting more "pro" features like Guitar Pro has. So hopefully you'll find my feedback useful... On the tab interface: - Seeing a blob of 6 numbers come isn't intuitive enough. The strings REALLY need to be colored. You should be able to get away with using the same colors as Rocksmi…

Question about the string coloring: Does Rocksmith support guitars with "extra" strings, like 7-string or 8-string guitars? FATpick does, and I'm wondering what they do with respect to string color in that case.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

PhaedrusV wrote: post #104

I tried importing a tab from ultimate-guitar (.gp4) and after about 10 minutes fatpick notified me that the tab was ready to play, but when I opened it up the tab was empty. The name was imported correctly, but it looked like that was it. Since this is a semi-established space that you're just putting a few variations on, concur with other posters suggesting you need to reduce friction. There shouldn't need to be a l…

Thanks for the feedback PhaedrusV, and apologies for the issue you encountered.

I just tested the Lumineers song you uploaded (meaning that I played your exact import, not that I imported the gp4 file from scratch) and it seems to be working ok for me.

I think that if you try again it will probably work. I think the problem you encountered was that the file wasn't properly (fully) downloaded when the app tried to open it. Specifically that sounds like an example of a file-download race condition we're working on (I mentioned it elsewhere in this discussion if you are curious).

Usually when this happens if you just hit the back button in the header to go back to the track-selection screen, wait a few seconds and then hit the play (or forward) button it will work the second time around.

I realize what a crappy UX it is when that happens but it is almost always a temporary glitch. If you go back to the track selection screen, give it a second to finish flushing to disk it should work. (Moreover once the file is loaded to your local cache you shouldn't see the problem again.)

If you are still having problems you could try flushing your local cache (go to the Settings, toggle "Advanced Options" to on then clicking the "Clear Cache" button that now appears at the bottom) and try again.

If you are still having problems even after that please reach out via the contact form in the app, or online at https://www.fatpick.com/contact-us, or contact me directly as rod@ and we'll work it out.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

#107

Post by rodw »

sriram_malhar wrote: post #5

This looks very interesting. Alas, it doesn't pass security on Mac OS Mojave.

For what it is worth this should be fixed now.

The version now available at https://www.fatpick.com/downloads/FATpick-mac-latest.dmg is fully notarized by Apple and should not have this problem.

Release notes here: https://www.fatpick.com/blog/release-notes-fatpick-v1-4-2

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

ladino wrote: post #17
sriram_malhar wrote: post #5

This looks very interesting. Alas, it doesn't pass security on Mac OS Mojave.

confirmed on Catalina as well! - can you please post here when it's fixed? I would love to try it!

Hey ladino, just to update you (as requested) this should be fixed now.

The version currently available at https://www.fatpick.com/downloads/FATpick-mac-latest.dmg is fully notarized by Apple and should not have this problem.

Release notes here: https://www.fatpick.com/blog/release-notes-fatpick-v1-4-2

Please let me know if you encounter any problems with this new build. You can reach me via the contact form at https://www.fatpick.com/contact-us or you can email me directly at rod@.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

#109

Post by rodw »

JustinAiken wrote: post #54

Okay, I'm probably your exact target demographic - I have about 1,300 hours in Rocksmith and I'm obsessed with it, but often find myself wanting more "pro" features like Guitar Pro has. So hopefully you'll find my feedback useful... On the tab interface: - Seeing a blob of 6 numbers come isn't intuitive enough. The strings REALLY need to be colored. You should be able to get away with using the same colors as Rocksmi…

Hey Justin, just FYI the Rocksmith-style string coloring is now available in FATpick (as of v1.4.2).

Download from here: https://www.fatpick.com/support/downloads

Release notes here: https://www.fatpick.com/blog/release-notes-fatpick-v1-4-2

Thanks for the suggestion.

FWIW, several of your other ideas are also near the top of the development queue but will take a little more time to complete and test.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

#110

Post by rodw »

ShamelessC wrote: post #63

Running into problems on MacOS Catalina 10.15.2 (MacBook Pro 2019 16" model). My mic isn't being detected for some reason. I tried messing with the settings and running the "Latency Calibration" but it just says "We were unable to measure the system latency". Can't determine what's wrong as GarageBand and the System Preferences both show it as working. Also, just a minor bug I found - if you have a song already loade…

Hi ShamelessC. If you see this can you give it another try?

I think the latest version (v1.4.2) now available at https://www.fatpick.com/support/downloads fixes this.

I think same updates that fixed the notarization issue may fix this problem also (since we had to add an explicit entitlement for the audio input). If it doesn't please reach me via the contact form at https://www.fatpick.com/contact-us or email me directly at rod@. I'd really like to get to the bottom of this issue for both of our sake.

BTW: That minor latency calibration bug you mentioned is also "fixed", in that the button is disabled when you are on the play screen. This was already the behavior in the general case but that special red button you see when the latency has never been calibrated wasn't getting disabled by the same logic. It is now.

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