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Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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thebiglebrewski wrote: post #8
rodw wrote: post #6

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can you share details of what you're seeing? If you want to send it to me directly you can email me as rod at fatpick.

This is what I get: https://imgur.com/a/aHy0c0Z Would love to try it!

Thanks. I just double checked on High Sierra and I'm not seeing the problem but I don't have a Mojave install in front of me right now so I can't troubleshoot it immediately.

Are you seeing that problem when opening the DMG or the app itself? Does it help to use the right-click-and-choose-open approach?

For what it is worth you can download (a zipped version of) the .app file directly from https://www.fatpick.com/releases/FATpick-1.3.5-mac.zip, if that would work around the problem.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

lou1306 wrote: post #7

OP: I don't know if you already know it, but there is a huge homebrew tabs community around the Rocksmith "video game". (Try looking for CustomsForge). If you find a way to support their format, you might gain access to a huge repository of tabs. Maybe this might put your tool on Ubisoft's radar, so I suggest to thread lightly, but it would be awesome.

Thanks. I'm familiar with CustomsForge, and there are a lot of interesting things about it.

But you don't need anything nearly as complicated as Rocksmith files or CustomsForge to import songs into FATpick. FATpick already accepts Guitar Pro files, so there are thousands, maybe 10s of thousands of scores you can download from ultimate-guitar and other sites to import into FATpick.

Also, while obviously not as convenient, free software like TuxGuitar can convert other formats (MuseScore, MusicXML, etc.) into GuitarPro, so you can import pretty much any machine-readable score into FATpick (modulo proprietary formats like Rocksmith/CustomsForge, but you need to jump thru hoops to "extract" data in that format in the first place).

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

ssttoo wrote: post #10
rodw wrote: post #2

Hi everyone. I'd like to introduce you to a side project I've been working on for a little while now. FATpick ( https://www.fatpick.com/ ) is a practice tool for guitar (and bass) that helps you learn to play new songs, improve your skills and stay motivated to keep playing. It's an auto-scrolling tablature viewer, synchronized with backing tracks, that listens as you play along with any guitar, providing immediate f…

Electron - does that mean it’s built with JavaScript and webaudio API? Congrats on the launch!

Essentially yes, and thank you.

Being able to leverage WebAudio was a major factor in the decision to use Electron.

To be honest at first I was thinking of Electron/WebAudio as a prototyping tool that I would only use for a proof-of-concept, but I've been pleasantly surprised by its performance and capabilities. So far I haven't found a compelling reason to change. When you don't need to worry about cross-browser compatibility the modern HTML5 toolset is really pretty powerful.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by ssttoo »

rodw wrote: post #13
ssttoo wrote: post #10

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Electron - does that mean it’s built with JavaScript and webaudio API? Congrats on the launch!

Essentially yes, and thank you. Being able to leverage WebAudio was a major factor in the decision to use Electron. To be honest at first I was thinking of Electron/WebAudio as a prototyping tool that I would only use for a proof-of-concept, but I've been pleasantly surprised by its performance and capabilities. So far I haven't found a compelling reason to change. When you don't need to worry about cross-browser com…

Awesome, thanks! I’ve seen proof-of-concept pitch detection in webaudio but it’s great to learn it’s production-worthy, not just a demo. I’ll try fatpick (love the name, btw) when I get to a guitar and report back.

Also curious what did you use for painting the tabs. DIY in Canvas? Or vexflow?

Btw there’s a nice talk from Adrian Holovaty on perf challenges with soundslice and its drawing/updating of notation (standard and tabs)

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by lou1306 »

rodw wrote: post #12
lou1306 wrote: post #7

OP: I don't know if you already know it, but there is a huge homebrew tabs community around the Rocksmith "video game". (Try looking for CustomsForge). If you find a way to support their format, you might gain access to a huge repository of tabs. Maybe this might put your tool on Ubisoft's radar, so I suggest to thread lightly, but it would be awesome.

Thanks. I'm familiar with CustomsForge, and there are a lot of interesting things about it. But you don't need anything nearly as complicated as Rocksmith files or CustomsForge to import songs into FATpick. FATpick already accepts Guitar Pro files, so there are thousands, maybe 10s of thousands of scores you can download from ultimate-guitar and other sites to import into FATpick. Also, while obviously not as conveni…

> FATpick already accepts Guitar Pro files

This is interesting. I suggest you add that somewhere in the home page.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by jtbayly »

rodw wrote: post #11
thebiglebrewski wrote: post #8

Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is what I get: https://imgur.com/a/aHy0c0Z Would love to try it!

Thanks. I just double checked on High Sierra and I'm not seeing the problem but I don't have a Mojave install in front of me right now so I can't troubleshoot it immediately. Are you seeing that problem when opening the DMG or the app itself? Does it help to use the right-click-and-choose-open approach? For what it is worth you can download (a zipped version of) the .app file directly from https://www.fatpick.com/rel…

It's when attempting to run the app.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

lou1306 wrote: post #16
rodw wrote: post #12

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Thanks. I'm familiar with CustomsForge, and there are a lot of interesting things about it. But you don't need anything nearly as complicated as Rocksmith files or CustomsForge to import songs into FATpick. FATpick already accepts Guitar Pro files, so there are thousands, maybe 10s of thousands of scores you can download from ultimate-guitar and other sites to import into FATpick. Also, while obviously not as conveni…

> FATpick already accepts Guitar Pro files This is interesting. I suggest you add that somewhere in the home page.

Well, technically I do mention it on both the landing page and the download page (and usually where-ever the functionality is described), but I guess the lesson here is that it needs to be called out more aggressively. I appreciate the feedback.

Re: Show HN: A guitar tab viewer that listens

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Post by rodw »

ladino wrote: post #17
sriram_malhar wrote: post #5

This looks very interesting. Alas, it doesn't pass security on Mac OS Mojave.

confirmed on Catalina as well! - can you please post here when it's fixed? I would love to try it!

The app is code-signed with a valid Apple developer ID, but you may be seeing problems because it is not directly distributed through the app store. Per Google apparently a lot of apps have run into this problem: it seems that post-Catalina Apple insists on an additional "notarization" step for non-store apps. I was actually aware of this general problem since there was some hubbub about Electron 7+ apps having issues with that process, but I mistakenly believed I was immune to that problem by pinning to Electron 6. I'll ping you once we've jumped through that hoop, but unfortunately it isn't something that I can fix instantly.

In the meantime you can make an explicit exception by "right-clicking" on the application icon and selecting "Open" from the context menu that pops up.

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