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Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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Igor Ashmanov (the guy who hired Sysoev, and was a COO at the Rambler at the time) said that the Ngnix (under different name) was indeed a side project started before Sysoev joined Rambler. Moreover this was properly disclosed, and green lighted by Rambler executives at the time.

Source: https://roem.ru/12-12-2019/281134/rambler-nginx/#comment-292... (Russian)

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #130

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I am not sure why this is being downvoted. If a Russian court determines (and/or the developer is forced to agree) that the BSD license was issued by someone who did not own the intellectual property, doesn't that create a significant legal issue for anyone who is using nginx under that BSD license since that license would no longer be valid? Doesn't the potential for this exact sort of issue point out a flaw in how…

When you say "if a Russian court determines" this sounds like an insult to me. Simply check out how recently lots of people have been convicted for nothing, for a poster, a like, for jogging, for trying to get elected, for a youtube video. I kindly ask you to stop believing that Russia is a place where unicorns shit with rainbow and courts work. No, they do not. And by not acknowledging putin's terror against us you…

But it doesn't matter if the court is just or not. What matters is whether the decision is official. Now, the rest of the world doesn't have to abide by the decision, but whether or not Russian courts are corrupt (they are) they do make decisions and there is sufficient law enforcement to bring those decisions to life.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

Rambler was bought by the Sberbank (the largest state-owned bank in Russia) in August this year

This is a very important detail if true!

https://www.broadbandtvnews.com/2019/04/24/sberbank-buys-int...

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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Oh my, I still see people in the comments who naively think this is a copyright issue. Seriously? 15 years after the alleged event? With physical violence against software developers? It's only one among thousands of cases when putinists rob successful companies. The world must put more pressure on putinism, because eventually all the stolen resources turn into imprisonments of people in the country and deaths of peo…

Perhaps feeding into more conspiracies, yet it's worth to remember the recent law to "isolate" the russian internet from the rest of the world [0]. Securing control over the web server software (indeed popular for solid reasons) plays well into this lockdown objective and yields to the state a product that it would struggle to create on its own otherwise. Think of those failed attempts at creating a "national OS" to…

Good point, although there would be one fatal flaw on that objective; nginx is open source and can simply be forked (outside Russia).

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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Oh my, I still see people in the comments who naively think this is a copyright issue. Seriously? 15 years after the alleged event? With physical violence against software developers? It's only one among thousands of cases when putinists rob successful companies. The world must put more pressure on putinism, because eventually all the stolen resources turn into imprisonments of people in the country and deaths of peo…

I am quite sure you are right this is corrupt putinism. Putin's economic system is crony capitalism. The laws mean nothing, it is all a matter of who has political corrections and pays the biggest bribe. That is why there is so little technological innovation in Russia, in spite of its being a huge developed country with a highly educated workforce (except, of course, for hacking). People with ideas know they will ju…

This sentiment is equally true for the west, crony capitalism. I just wish more people would acknowledge that the west is in the same state.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #20

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If they indeed have copyright then you cannot legally fork it without them giving you licence to it. Just because you have the code doesn't mean you have the licence. All the other licences would be void.

If you contributed to nginx, do these new owners own your contributions if you submitted them under what turned out to be false pretenses ? Shouldn't all the community contributions be void because of that? That would significantly reduce nginx's worth. If not, what's to stop other companies doing this in a predatory way? Start an "open source" project, gather years of valuable contributions from a enthusiastic commu…

No, these "new owners" wouldn't own these contributions.

But since the project is under BSD license, they could make a case that they are allowed to use your changes (under that license). I'm not sure how that would eventually play out in court, though.

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #73

With the original open sourcing license of nginx in doubt, it is prudent for open source projects to look into alternatives?

As I mentioned before, Apache is The Best Web Server in the world. Period.

If you want simplest non-bloated and secure - OpenBSD's httpd is absolute king.

But for many generations of IT people Apache had (and still has) that nice homey feeling.

One of Best things that happened to IT world.

Edit: s/https/httpd :-) bloody phones and their "smart" keyboards

Re: Police conducted search in the Nginx office due to a copyright claim

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post #200

So this is what happens when successful ideas in Russia gain market share? Why would anyone want to execute their ideas in Russia?

They may not have a choice?

Or just don't do it. Russia has around the GDP of Italy this might have to do something with it.
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