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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by Agenttin »

npongratz wrote: post #290
dobleboble wrote: post #288

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Voice control of smart devices is extremely convenient. I can only imagine what a quality of life improvement it is for someone with physical disabilities.

Right, convenient for some, and I empathize with that use case. But why must we all be subjected to Big Brother's unblinking, creepy-as-fuck stare? And why must all the data enabling the convenience be ripped away from my exclusive control and sent back to some centralized store?

Getting a Google home isn't mandatory, at least not yet. I personally use mine almost exclusively as an alarm clock. I have a tendency to wake up several times a night to check if I remembered to set an alarm, it's probably an anxiety thing. So I cast around my room for my glasses or press my face against my alarm clock or cell phone. Now when I wake up I just ask Google and it cheerfully informs me of the time. I also put a smart light bulb in my bedside lamp. In return Google may be able to gain some insight into my sleeping habits, and if I ever get back to having sex they can listen to that too.

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Post by notacoward »

ghaff wrote: post #296
chrisseaton wrote: post #292

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I see it all the time - for example https://www.seatguru.com/airlines/United_Airlines/United_Air...

That's a 767. I fly United about 75,000 miles a year and I'm not sure the last time I've ever been on a 767. It's been a long time. This is a fairly typical 777 seat map (without Premium Economy). https://www.united.com/ual/en/us/fly/travel/inflight/aircraf... I also end up flying a lot of 737s which are 6 across in economy.

Some people are just determined to believe that their personal experience must be universal, facts be damned. You've just encountered one such. Every time I see that name I know it's going to be the same shtick.

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vincnetas wrote: post #172

I really liked seats arrangement in Helsinki public buses. Not sure how popular are they. But basic idea is that in a paired seat you have one seat shifted a bit to back. Because of that if there are two people sitting they don't rub their shoulders to one another and it feels much more spacious. Only picture that i could find : https://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/59672293951/234937...

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by dsfyu404ed »

vxNsr wrote: post #295

Idk what economy cabins these people are sitting in but those seats look at least business-sized to me. No US airline will be sticking something that big in economy. And facial-recog? Airlines are moving away from putting anything in the seat-backs at all and now you wanna put expensive camera tech in there?

The seats are big but not that big. They pulled the ol' "everything looks bigger with a small woman for scale" trick. Look at the picture of the guy sitting in the seat facing away from the camera. It looks like he's leaning right in order to fit in the chair and they moved the camera to the ~4:00 position in order to make that not show. They might not be "true economy" small but these seats certainly aren't large.

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Post by technofiend »

oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Finally! A use for all those free webcam covers I keep getting at trade shows. You're welcome, fellow passengers. Or failing that there's always duct tape.

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Post by tracer4201 »

blackguardx wrote: post #63
3JPLW wrote: post #60

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But why?

They probably put it in to do gaze tracking in the hopes of selling that data back to movie studios/advertisers. I'm not sure if they currently sell this data, but I'm sure we will find out when/if some disclaimer flashes on the screen in the beginning of the flight.

Hopefully it doesn’t catch on too much. I’d boycott any airline that I knew was doing that.

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Post by mdtusz »

rsp1984 wrote: post #186

On long distance flights I always use the following hack in economy: I take the armrest separating me from my neighbor and tilt it almost fully up, so it forms about a 15 deg angle with the seat back. Now it's a headrest! Then I take the pillow, fold it and stick it in between the armrest and my head so I can lean comfortably. Of course this requires kindly asking for permission from the seat neighbor. But most don't…

On any plane I've been on, the armrest barely reaches my shoulder when in the up position. I have no idea how you can manage this.

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Post by CaptainZapp »

scrollaway wrote: post #320
CaptainZapp wrote: post #168

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I don't get why you're downvoted. I think it's a creative idea. But I don't think it will fly (pun intended). Real estate (as in space) on a plane is probably the most expensive in the world. While airlines reserve space for (for example) a bar in business class (and to the best of my knowledge only in the A380) a gym would use too much space. There's also the issue with turbulence to consider, which would make a gym…

Real estate and weight are the two most expensive things on planes, and two things gyms use extensively.

True; I didn't even consider the weight.

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Post by samstave »

9HZZRfNlpR wrote: post #132
samstave wrote: post #50

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Eventually AI will be watching your stress level mannerisms and micro-expressions to determine if youre a risk to the flight.

Unless you're a medieval king with 200 servants it's difficult to imagine yes. Maybe when someone is disabled? But then again sound would be enough.

? What was this supposed to be to?

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Post by technofiend »

puranjay wrote: post #202
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

> This could be the worst idea ever. Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie This seems to be uniform across all surveillance technology. The purported convenience is so laughably minor that it's almost a parody. Like Alexa - people are willing to have a Big Brother-esque speaker inside their homes for the convenience of playing some…

>Like Alexa - people are willing to have a Big Brother-esque speaker inside their homes for the convenience of playing some music? Is that all it takes?

Here's my workaround: my smart speaker is tied to the lightswitch. It's only on when I'm in that room and if Google can somehow make use of the fact I stream a podcast or the local NPR station while bathing and shaving more power to them.

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