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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by Aeolun »

bamboozled wrote: post #207
ninjin wrote: post #150

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At the very least Nihon Koutsuu (日本交通) [1] does this. [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nihon_Kotsu

I also a similar message in a Koutsuu but it was something about "Watching you face to see if you find the content engaging". I guess they think they can keep tailing the information to you until you can't seem to look away? Very creepy.

I haven’t seen it have any effect on what is playing. Maybe I should look more grumpy until it’s actually showing me interesting advertisments.

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Post by Aeolun »

simonh wrote: post #190
manigandham wrote: post #137

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Clarification of the difference between recognition and general detection is not an argument for or against, though perhaps you should re-read my last sentence for my position.

Your post is making the mistake that, just because all this function needs is detection, that therefore this is the only thing it's actually doing. "What this is about is..." This isn't about detection and isn't about triggering a sleep mode at all. It's not even about over-engineering for this particular function, because this particular function is not the point. What it's actually about is doing everything they ca…

And you get to pay them for it!

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Post by WalterBright »

IAmEveryone wrote: post #211
WalterBright wrote: post #198

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Stop worrying about waking up the kids with your noise, and they'll soon learn it's normal (even comforting) and sleep right through it.

If you're yelling enough for your children to no longer wake up from it, your neighbours will typically call a social worker.

I doubt they'd call the social workers over yelling "Mr. Watson come here - I want to see you."

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Post by systemtest »

fivre wrote: post #48
ObsoleteNerd wrote: post #22

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I’d love a capsule-hotel-style option. I don’t care how cramped it is. I feel like you could stack some bunks that take up the same cubic-space-per-seat as existing seats. I only need enough space to lie sideways with my phone in front of my face and a USB port and I’d travel a lot lot more. Context: Physically disabled and have issues sitting on chairs for longer than 1-2hrs before my legs are in excruciating pain,…

You could, and you'd likely create an evacuation pathway nightmare in the process.

You could eject the sleeping pods out the side of the plane with a small thruster rocket and a parachute.

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Post by Jolter »

vincnetas wrote: post #172

I really liked seats arrangement in Helsinki public buses. Not sure how popular are they. But basic idea is that in a paired seat you have one seat shifted a bit to back. Because of that if there are two people sitting they don't rub their shoulders to one another and it feels much more spacious. Only picture that i could find : https://depressingfinland.tumblr.com/post/59672293951/234937...

The older model streetcars in Gothenburg, Sweden, have the same arrangement. These are from the 60s and are still in use.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by systemtest »

crimsonalucard wrote: post #14

The sitting position occupies a cubic volume with dead space below the butt and above the lap. If you want to put more people in the plane, make them lie down and place the lie down spaces on top of each other and side by side. I'd be down to fly in an airplane like that which by logic should have cheaper air fares because of more people on the plane. It's the perfect sleeping position. The problem is Would you rathe…

That is exactly how slave ships transported their slaves.

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Post by _23sd »

kumarvvr wrote: post #220
chki wrote: post #219

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To be fair, everybody who has Alexa already has a phone constantly with them everywhere. So it's just one extra microphone, not something completely different.

However, a smartphone is more transparent, relatively, over what it does. Not so much with Alexa.

Not sure what specifically you mean. Most smartphones today come with one of the assistants (Google, Siri, Alexa, or Bixby) turned on by default.

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Post by isoskeles »

jon889 wrote: post #205

It's really easy to claim to make it easier to sleep in economy by adding a chair from short haul business class.. This doesn't fit in at all with making the seats as light and thin as possible to save weight and increase available space (for more legroom or more seats) A much cheaper, smaller and simpler option would just have to have the head rest paddings that have small foldable wings that exist already on slight…

I hate those headrests. They force my neck forward into an unnatural position making it impossible to sleep that way. I’d prefer no headrest at all.

If I am serious about sleeping on a flight, I have to rest forward on the food tray. This is also impossible sometimes, depending on the space and whether the seat is reclined.

Anyway, that’s just me. I’m not saying an airplane should be tailored to my personal needs. I just don’t think there’s a solution that satisfies everyone or aside from bunk beds, and good luck with that.

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Post by cpcallen »

I'd love one of these wingback armchairs to sleep in—but I'd settle for more widespread use of the circa-2000 British Airways economy class seats with their three-part headrest, the outermost parts of which would fold down and forwards to create a very effective side headrest: http://benjaminjtravel.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/05/Trip-R...

Their newer planes (and those on many airlines) have headrests that fold with a vertical hinge, but these invariably cause my head to tip forward when I fall asleep, waking me up again (if the hinge is even stiff enough not to just fold flat again when I lean against it).

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Post by isoskeles »

why-oh-why wrote: post #154
TuringNYC wrote: post #29

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+1 It baffles me that non-middle seat passengers try to assert rights to middle seat armrests and consider themselves justified.

I wonder if any of you ever tried sitting on the aisle. It’s a hazard there, constantly being hit by anything and anyone who passes by. No way I’m “resting” on that armrest and therefore I’ll lean towards the middle seat.

Do you prefer the middle seat to the aisle?
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