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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

The whole point of inflight movies is to fall asleep in front of them.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

This isn't recognizing your specific face, it's about watching your general expressions. Many modern cars already have something like this to see if you're falling sleeping while behind the wheel and will start vibrating the seats and steering while sounding alarms to get you alert again. That being said, it's definitely over engineered compared to a "are you still active" button on the screen.

oh, so it's only 90% as awful as it sounds. Guess that's fine, then.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

it a very good idea.. for advertisers. because likes are a thing of the past, now we will display ads and collect facial expressions and emotions in real time :D

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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What I'd rather see is designs that make the middle seat more palatable. There are more aircraft with 3 seats on each side now. It's not perfect, but ideas that make the middle seat better via dedicated armrests, or offsetting it slightly back, would be welcome. One supplier with some decent ideas: https://www.airlineseats.biz/for-passengers

+1 It baffles me that non-middle seat passengers try to assert rights to middle seat armrests and consider themselves justified.

I wonder if any of you ever tried sitting on the aisle. It’s a hazard there, constantly being hit by anything and anyone who passes by. No way I’m “resting” on that armrest and therefore I’ll lean towards the middle seat.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #123

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Boring meetings have the same effect on me. The main challenge is, not to snore.

This is actually a serious problem to me. Regardless of how interesting I find them, meetings at work trigger something deep inside me that cause me to sleep. It’s like a biological switch has been flipped. Cavemen talking around a fire into the night, getting ready for the long rest for the day ahead... Sometimes I fall into a fugue in which I am semi-aware and a dream fills in part of the speech of meetings. I hear…

What convinces you that you don't have sleep issues? You can appear to get enough sleep but he lacking in REM sleep, for example.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #123

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Boring meetings have the same effect on me. The main challenge is, not to snore.

This is actually a serious problem to me. Regardless of how interesting I find them, meetings at work trigger something deep inside me that cause me to sleep. It’s like a biological switch has been flipped. Cavemen talking around a fire into the night, getting ready for the long rest for the day ahead... Sometimes I fall into a fugue in which I am semi-aware and a dream fills in part of the speech of meetings. I hear…

I thought I was the only person with a serious case of useless-meeting narcolepsy.

Keeping relatively active helps, just like taking walks roughly every hour at minimum during work. If I'm absolutely going to sleep I'll stop paying attention and focus on my work, but then I'll miss opportunities to talk when needed.

I'll owe my career to anyone who can find a solution.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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post #60

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I'm pretty sure many airlines already have cameras looking at your face. The last few international United Airlines flights I was on had IR LEDs just below the seat entertainment screen shining in my face the whole flight. I worked for an 3D camera company at the time and was pretty tuned in to IR (~850 nm) LED's dim red glow. There is no reason for them being there unless there are cameras looking at your face.

But why?

Would security services pay for good 3D scans of all people taking airline flights. Seems a possibility to me.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I'm pretty sure many airlines already have cameras looking at your face. The last few international United Airlines flights I was on had IR LEDs just below the seat entertainment screen shining in my face the whole flight. I worked for an 3D camera company at the time and was pretty tuned in to IR (~850 nm) LED's dim red glow. There is no reason for them being there unless there are cameras looking at your face.

I flew a United 787-9 recently and noticed an IR LED too, but I assumed it was a proximity sensor (when you bring your hands close to the bottom of the screen the home button, headphone jack, and USB charging port light up).

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Earlier quoted context omitted.

This is actually a serious problem to me. Regardless of how interesting I find them, meetings at work trigger something deep inside me that cause me to sleep. It’s like a biological switch has been flipped. Cavemen talking around a fire into the night, getting ready for the long rest for the day ahead... Sometimes I fall into a fugue in which I am semi-aware and a dream fills in part of the speech of meetings. I hear…

What convinces you that you don't have sleep issues? You can appear to get enough sleep but he lacking in REM sleep, for example.

I have the same problem as your parent, and I'm convinced I don't have the usual sleep issues for several reasons.

1) I'm very sensitive of lack of sleep, and so I take having 8-hours or more of good sleep extremely seriously. 2) Most days I don't have any sudden sleep syndrome. 3) I've had cases of sudden extreme sleepiness for no particular reason since I was a child. The only thing in common I can think of in this cases is being indoors.

I never thought about it before, but I might have a case of narcolepsy or something similar.

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