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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I'll just take care to bring either chewing gums or tape. Problem solved

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Those look like Premium Economy seats based on their generous width, not the crushing 17"-and-change width of typical Economy seats.

they look more like old school first class seats. the problem with sleeping on a plane has to do with circulation -- it's actually hard on the heart to pump blood from your feet with you're motionless for hours at a time on a plane. If they really wanted to solve this, they'd do one of two things: 1) they would shift the time of departure from 6p - midnight to 3 am. They'd let everyone sleep in a special part of the…

Many airports near cities have noise curfews that disallow regularly scheduled departures and arrivals between 1 and 6am or something similar.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Depends on what you mean by "recognize faces". It has to recognize that it's seeing a face and eyes, but it doesn't need to recognize that the face belongs to John Smith, Frequent Flyer #0123456789

What exactly is the privacy risk there? The airline already knows who is sitting in the seat, and also their ff#

Breastfeeding

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I'll just take care to bring either chewing gums or tape. Problem solved

I'm convinced they will be declared dangerous goods in no time and allowed only in checked in luggage...

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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What I'd rather see is designs that make the middle seat more palatable. There are more aircraft with 3 seats on each side now. It's not perfect, but ideas that make the middle seat better via dedicated armrests, or offsetting it slightly back, would be welcome. One supplier with some decent ideas: https://www.airlineseats.biz/for-passengers

The middle seat staggered lets people use the same armrest at different spots. That's a good idea https://static.wixstatic.com/media/1fe40a_b68668609cbc4cf59b...

Except it makes it even more annoying to get out for the window seat behind.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie? I flew on an Emirates A380 recently that had a front-facing camera in the IFE system. I'm not sure what its intended purpose was - perhaps to allow video calls? I had no way to tell if it was in-use during the flight, but i assume there were already other cameras in the main passenger cabin w…

It is for video calls. Depending on your class, you can video call the flight attendants

Whay's the point of video calling someone in the same room a few meters away?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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What I'd rather see is designs that make the middle seat more palatable. There are more aircraft with 3 seats on each side now. It's not perfect, but ideas that make the middle seat better via dedicated armrests, or offsetting it slightly back, would be welcome. One supplier with some decent ideas: https://www.airlineseats.biz/for-passengers

+1 It baffles me that non-middle seat passengers try to assert rights to middle seat armrests and consider themselves justified.

That seemed to get more common around the time picking the seat became a luxury add-on (e.g. basic economy vs economy on the US major carriers). Once folks felt they paid more for their aisle/window, they stopped caring about entitlements for the person in the middle.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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wish they made double or triple decker capsule hotel style beds for long flights.

Same. Almost 30 years ago, I took an overnight slowboat in Asia with my parents where each passenger had a thin mat (half-inch thick, 2' wide). People sat up, lay down to read or sleep. It was great. I've been on sleeper buses in China and triple-bunk sleeper trains in India and would vastly prefer those to the airline experience. Challenges with capsule-style beds could be accommodating families and handling meals?

I've taken a sleeper bus in Asia before but with my 6'5 the short beds are highly uncomfortable. I'm a big fan of sleeper trains though.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Can’t they just put “are you still there” button like Netflix? Would be cheaper and less creepy.

It would also have less false positives. I sometimes close my eyes and just listen to the audio, for TV documentaries for ex. and there are also radio programs.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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> "I hope that someone would consider this kind of opportunity -- this is something new. You do not have background for this, you cannot base judgment on previous experiences. We are exploring a new world." The man says desperately trying to convince anyone that this is a good idea. Also he's talking about 'short-haul' flights then mentions 3 hours which is not exactly a short time to be stand-squat-sitting on a bike…

In the UK there are several 2-3 hour train routes that are routinely standing room only. It's not a big deal.

Do people stand for that entire time? That’s some third-world country shit.
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