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New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by Gustomaximus »

oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

I specifically put on mediocre movies to help me sleep on flights. I often wake up when they finish. I can't be alone here.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ddalex »

dgemm wrote: post #87
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

Two years ago they would have been finding a way to add blockchain.

How else do you keep track of who slept and how much as to bill for the enhanced usage of your seat? /s

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by randomsearch »

greglindahl wrote: post #84
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

As someone who doesn't sleep much on planes, the benefit of turning off all of the video that my sleeping neighbors are playing is significant.

Good point, but do you need facial recognition to do that?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ddalex »

samstave wrote: post #50
mappu wrote: post #45

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Have cameras pointed at every flyer for the duration of the flight, for the incredibly minor benefit of stopping your movie? I flew on an Emirates A380 recently that had a front-facing camera in the IFE system. I'm not sure what its intended purpose was - perhaps to allow video calls? I had no way to tell if it was in-use during the flight, but i assume there were already other cameras in the main passenger cabin w…

Eventually AI will be watching your stress level mannerisms and micro-expressions to determine if youre a risk to the flight.

In the beginning, yes.

But after a short while the AI would carefully watch you while playing non-skippable ads to gauge how to maximize revenue per customer.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by mattrp »

chx wrote: post #76
mattrp wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they look more like old school first class seats. the problem with sleeping on a plane has to do with circulation -- it's actually hard on the heart to pump blood from your feet with you're motionless for hours at a time on a plane. If they really wanted to solve this, they'd do one of two things: 1) they would shift the time of departure from 6p - midnight to 3 am. They'd let everyone sleep in a special part of the…

The bunk bed concept often surfaces but see https://travel.stackexchange.com/q/21713/4188

Yeah I know... I have impractical ideas about air travel. My other idea was to take the second level of a 747 and convert it to a gym. Instead of seats you’d have treadmills and at the far end would be showers. Anyone could “book” time in the gym for a fee. Imagine being able to go for a run on a 18 hour transpacific flight? Of course all this gets mooted by the starship... once we can get la to Singapore in 20 minutes who cares what the seat looks like?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by ddalex »

gowld wrote: post #57
oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

The camera will be used to automatically pause the ads when your eyes are closed.

Drink a verification can to continue.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by quotemstr »

chx wrote: post #76
mattrp wrote: post #61

Earlier quoted context omitted.

they look more like old school first class seats. the problem with sleeping on a plane has to do with circulation -- it's actually hard on the heart to pump blood from your feet with you're motionless for hours at a time on a plane. If they really wanted to solve this, they'd do one of two things: 1) they would shift the time of departure from 6p - midnight to 3 am. They'd let everyone sleep in a special part of the…

The bunk bed concept often surfaces but see https://travel.stackexchange.com/q/21713/4188

Given the huge improvements in air travel safety over the past few decades, it probably makes sense to relax evacuation and seatbelt requirements a little bit in order to enable experimentation with bunks and other non-standard layouts.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by dilyevsky »

oceliker wrote: post #39

> The designers are considering adding facial recognition technology to the design. Um, what > In fitting with the trend towards more personalized, data-driven flying experiences, New Territory is keen to add facial recognition technology to the mix too. > The idea is that as the seat wing recognizes that you've fallen asleep, it'll automatically turn off the movie playing on your IFE. This could be the worst idea ev…

If that face recognition software is of the same quality as usual flight infotainment systems I think we are pretty safe.

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by AlphaSite »

boring_twenties wrote: post #59
Johnny555 wrote: post #25

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Depends on what you mean by "recognize faces". It has to recognize that it's seeing a face and eyes, but it doesn't need to recognize that the face belongs to John Smith, Frequent Flyer #0123456789

What exactly is the privacy risk there? The airline already knows who is sitting in the seat, and also their ff#

Who wants a camera pointed at their face for potentially 20+ hours?

Re: New airplane seat design to make it easier to sleep in economy

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Post by lathiat »

danans wrote: post #42

Any improvement to airline seats is welcome, but this won't address the biggest comfort issue for me which is the prolonged pressure on the posterior caused hours of sitting. I feel like airplane seats could benefit by using elements of office chair design.

I have found this is very seat dependent. I am very heavy and the Emirates A380 seat is by far the most comfortable for 10-14+ hour flights. Most planes are OK but the new Qantas 787 Economy seat for some reason is not.

The new Qantas 787 Premium Economy seat however is amazing. Among other things the whole seat tilts back slightly (including the base) and it has an adjustable height foot rest. It was a dream to sleep in and I'd consider paying for it (every flight I take is usually a 20+ hour trip, so..)

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