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Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by chimera77 »

cstpdk wrote: post #69
dstaley wrote: post #66

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Cloud Run user here. It does not support running a database as a Cloud Run service; you'd need to connect to a Cloud SQL instance. This is one area I really hope PaaS providers improve on in the future. The closest thing at the moment is Aurora Serverless on AWS, especially with their neat HTTP connection system. That being said, cold starts are even worse since they're now the start up time for your application in a…

But, correct me if this has changed please, last i checked Cloud Run did not support private networks. So you SQL instance has to be exposed to the internet, correct?

Your Cloud SQL instance would have a public IP, but would not be exposed to the internet. All traffic is blocked by default. Only GCP service accounts with the right permissions can make connections to your SQL instance, or IPs added to a whitelist (not recommended).

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by pnutjam »

prirun wrote: post #130
pnutjam wrote: post #93

I didn't see time4vps on here. They are the only provider I've seen with large storage vps's for a reasonable price. I use one to do all my cloud backups and I can still run afew services on top.

Hmm... their largest storage VPS, 8TB, is $1437 USD/yr, which works out to around $15/mo/TB. This is 3x more expensive than Backblaze B2 @ $5/TB/mo. It seems like you'd do better using something like B2 for cloud backups and getting a $5/mo Linode VPS or $2.50/mo Vultr VPS for your other services. I use both Linode and Vultr and like them both.

I'm on 1tb, so it's a break even to use b2 and add another cheap vps. Plus I can use Borg.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by erulabs »

tyingq wrote: post #7
asdkhadsj wrote: post #3

I can't wait for PaaS prices to drop. I know they'll always be relatively expensive, but I'm primarily a dev (not ops) and I don't have the time nor desire to manage my own servers securely. Heroku lately has seemed a tempting offer, assuming I can run my apps on it (Rust based) , but at $7/m for little side projects it felt.. expensive for a no user side project. They can add up. A $5/m DO box can host quite a few a…

Maybe openfaas, kubeless, or knative on DigitalOcean's managed K8S? Note that Linode has managed K8S in beta now, so there's another cheap K8S option.

If you’re interested - Im building a starting-at-free Kubernetes hosting service, out of YCombinator S19! - https://kubesail.com

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by [deleted] »

tambre wrote: post #67

A big caveat not mentioned for Digital Ocean is that they blackhole IPv6 email traffic. It took a while for me to figure out why it wasn't working since it wasn't documented in their documentation and there was no ICMPv6 response indicating this. Moved to Linode after that. I wonder if the same caveat applies to other providers that have improperly implemented IPv6 by not providing a /64.

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Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by mylonov »

indigodaddy wrote: post #17

I've been a Netcup customer for a year and a half or so, and I love them. Locations in Germany only, but for less than $10/mo (5.29EUR), you're not going to do much better than this on price to spec ratio. Performance is fantastic. I have the 8G/300G SAS rootserver for 8.99EUR (rootservers just give you dedicated cores). Note however that (similar to BuyVM), they are also extremely quick to cancel you outright if you…

There is (seems to be) no way to quickly spin up an instance for testing for new customers. After completing the order form I received an email stating they will check my address details and only after that complete the order and let me pay.

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by indigodaddy »

mylonov wrote: post #135
indigodaddy wrote: post #17

I've been a Netcup customer for a year and a half or so, and I love them. Locations in Germany only, but for less than $10/mo (5.29EUR), you're not going to do much better than this on price to spec ratio. Performance is fantastic. I have the 8G/300G SAS rootserver for 8.99EUR (rootservers just give you dedicated cores). Note however that (similar to BuyVM), they are also extremely quick to cancel you outright if you…

There is (seems to be) no way to quickly spin up an instance for testing for new customers. After completing the order form I received an email stating they will check my address details and only after that complete the order and let me pay.

Yes, you go thru the auth process, pay, and then they email you VM details after provisioning. Fairly standard. I don't think they claim to be very "cloudy," so yeah you're not going to get on-demand VM's you can just spin up like DO/Vultr. Perhaps they're hourly billing is confusing or misleading to lead you to think that. And it honestly really isn't hourly billing I don't think, unless they don't bill if you turn the VM off (never tested that).

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by cstpdk »

chimera77 wrote: post #131
cstpdk wrote: post #69

Earlier quoted context omitted.

But, correct me if this has changed please, last i checked Cloud Run did not support private networks. So you SQL instance has to be exposed to the internet, correct?

Your Cloud SQL instance would have a public IP, but would not be exposed to the internet. All traffic is blocked by default. Only GCP service accounts with the right permissions can make connections to your SQL instance, or IPs added to a whitelist (not recommended).

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, I was unaware. How is the traffic blocked by default? Firewall layer?

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by helpfulgoogler »

thesandlord wrote: post #113
ivoecpereira wrote: post #48

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Out of curiosity, what are you using for your databases?

I use Cloud Firestore, it's also serverless and is really easy to use for building SPAs as you can do a lot of things with just frontend code and trigger cloud functions when things in the database change. I do wish there was a serverless SQL option like AWS has, but nothing yet. Can always use Cloud SQL, but as others have mentioned you need to access it over a public IP (for now)

Have you seen the instructions for using a Unix socket with Cloud SQL from Cloud Run?

https://cloud.google.com/sql/docs/mysql/connect-run

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by helpfulgoogler »

ksec wrote: post #128
asdkhadsj wrote: post #16

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That.. is really impressive! Had no idea about this, thanks! For a well rounded review, can you or anyone comment on similar offerings with competitors? I was not familiar with per-request containers, but it sounds like exactly what I wanted. Thoughts?

As far as I am aware, there is nothing like CloudRun where your whole App are changed at a per second / request intervals. ( Although No Private Network means Your SQL requires Public IP which is a big No No ) I haven't tried using it though, and my recent submission [1] where BaseCamp had problem with GCP and moved back to AWS. [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21733996

Although a public IP address is required, you don't need to poke any holes in the firewall. As a result, it is not a problem from a security perspective.

https://cloud.google.com/sql/docs/mysql/connect-run

Re: Low-Cost VPS Testing

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Post by helpfulgoogler »

cstpdk wrote: post #137
chimera77 wrote: post #131

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your Cloud SQL instance would have a public IP, but would not be exposed to the internet. All traffic is blocked by default. Only GCP service accounts with the right permissions can make connections to your SQL instance, or IPs added to a whitelist (not recommended).

Ah, thanks for clearing that up, I was unaware. How is the traffic blocked by default? Firewall layer?

Yes. There is a proxy in front of the database which only allows whitelisted traffic (dangerous) or traffic with a valid cert (safe).
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