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Re: No to Chrome

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Post by driverdan »

Pigo wrote: post #111
monkeynotes wrote: post #91

Losing Chrome doesn't necessarily stop you being tracked. If you make a vacuum it will be filled by someone else. I am not suggesting apathy but opting out just makes holes for someone else to fill. And as we have seen in the past competition is great but it quickly gets amalgamated behind the scenes, just look at the alcohol industry. All those brands look like healthy competition, but it's largely one parent compan…

Try buying glasses that aren't made by Luxottica. I really wish we still cared about monopolization.

There are quite a few companies that aren't part of Luxottica. It just takes some research to find them. The two I've purchased from are American Optics / AO Eyeware and Tifosi. Their prices are better than Luxottica's brands and their quality is good.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by davidu »

aykutcan wrote: post #209

That claims about Youtube. Especially "YouTube has contributed to a growth of the flat earth conspiracies at the expense of scientific fact." Do you understand how algorithm or statistics works? They are giving people what they want. Freedom. People is watching that videos and made them more popular. They are free to share their thoughts. Even google can't predict all the negativeness and prevent them with computer s…

You know this is a very superficial understanding of what has happened right? And it doesn't capture how the design of the algorithms are actually shaping peoples views? The idea that it just gives you what you want is just not an accurate understanding of what is happening.

I suggest you read the work being published by Stanford U and Renee DiResta -- https://twitter.com/noUpside

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by garraeth »

qxnqd wrote: post #65
y4mi wrote: post #54

Earlier quoted context omitted.

It also sells your eyeballs by allowing certain adds after they've been paid. It's basically racketeering. If you're keen on using chromium with manifest v2 add-ons, Vivaldi and Microsoft edge are both options to keep in mind.

That is opt-in. Edge hasn't been released yet. Vivaldi UI is a buggy and slow mess (I invite you to try it yourself)

I use Vivaldi alongside Chrome for dev, and from that perspective (for the other devs here on HN) they seem like clones of each other. Both running the same JS engine and dev tools.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by rige »

floriol wrote: post #89
Antoninus wrote: post #21

I’m quite satisfied with my move away from google products. Moved from gmail to protonmail. Chrome to firefox and search to ddg. Ddg isn’t perfect though and I find myself using !g tag more often than I’d like.

I recently switched to qwant, seems to be a decent search engine, owned by a European company (as far as I know ddg is american, so pretty weak legal protection of user data). Though I also occasionally have to search on google.

Does the "pretty weak legal protection of user data" matter in this case though? There are no accounts or cookies (by default at least), and DDG's privacy policy states they don't log or store any user data. For me, that's enough, but I understand if others don't want to take DDG at their word on not storing any logs - but at that point, you'd probably want to be using Tor or a VPN anyway.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by kristiandupont »

greggman2 wrote: post #141
IggleSniggle wrote: post #35

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Apple Maps is now quite usable if you're on iOS...although it's no Waze.

Apple Maps meh. It doesn't work across devices. I look maps on my browser all the time. I need maps to appear everywhere and be sharable with the 80% of the planet not using iOS

You can use Apple Maps in the browser through DuckDuckGo

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by JustSomeNobody »

hakanensari wrote: post #190
saagarjha wrote: post #175

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> lacking first-person point-of-view You mean street view? Apple Maps is slowly rolling out their version.

I mean displaying from the point of view of you walking or driving. It simply shows a birds-eye view (unless I'm somehow glossing over a toggle somewhere?).

Two finger swipe up and down changes the perspective.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by aethros »

oefrha wrote: post #137
azdv wrote: post #76

Interesting, I just moved back to Firefox after many years of using Chrome. I have to admit, it has gotten a lot faster recently, Firefox sync is working very well, and the Firefox Android app is a pleasure to use (being able to install uBlock origin is a huge plus). Anything else I missed on Chrome was easily solved by an addon, or a small tweak on userChrome.css (customizing the browser interface by overriding its…

I can’t solve highlighting search results in the scroll bar, and apparently I search a surprising amount and am absolutely crippled without scroll bar highlighting, so I’ll stick to Chrome until I can’t (e.g. when content blocking is crippled).

I use chrome strictly for work nowadays. Hard to beat its speed and search features, like you mentioned. I'm mostly just visiting stack overflow, git repos, the occasional random site from a google search.

I don't login anywhere (including the browser itself) I don't need to for work, I don't use any extensions, and I don't mix work with personal stuff.

For anything not work however, Firefox all the way. Keep the data off google's servers as much as I can.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by kienkien »

bxparks wrote: post #202
oefrha wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I can’t solve highlighting search results in the scroll bar, and apparently I search a surprising amount and am absolutely crippled without scroll bar highlighting, so I’ll stick to Chrome until I can’t (e.g. when content blocking is crippled).

TIL. So funny, I've been using Chrome since the beginning, and I've never noticed this feature, and I search all the time. I am now switching between Firefox and Chrome among various laptops, and I am impressed with Firefox. At some point, Firefox may become my dominant browser.

I afraid that day may never come

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by [deleted] »

oefrha wrote: post #137
azdv wrote: post #76

Interesting, I just moved back to Firefox after many years of using Chrome. I have to admit, it has gotten a lot faster recently, Firefox sync is working very well, and the Firefox Android app is a pleasure to use (being able to install uBlock origin is a huge plus). Anything else I missed on Chrome was easily solved by an addon, or a small tweak on userChrome.css (customizing the browser interface by overriding its…

I can’t solve highlighting search results in the scroll bar, and apparently I search a surprising amount and am absolutely crippled without scroll bar highlighting, so I’ll stick to Chrome until I can’t (e.g. when content blocking is crippled).

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Re: No to Chrome

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Post by asdfman123 »

FussyZeus wrote: post #107
AVTizzle wrote: post #104

They really miss an opportunity to say WHY anywhere on the landing page, instead going straight to: "Chrome is bad. Here's some alternatives."

They don't say Chrome itself is bad, and therefore do not seek to explain it. The page is less a technical break down and more a call to action ala activism. Chrome itself isn't an issue, it's one of many tentacles, and one of the bigger ones, leading back to Google.

If you're arguing for something you need the full argument. Not everyone is starting with the assumption that Google is bad.

I know Google isn't a completely benign force in the universe but I haven't been properly convinced I should boycott them.

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