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Re: No to Chrome

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Post by maze-le » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:25 PM UTC

lallysingh wrote: post #48

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #25

Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway. For me, Google Maps and Waze are the hardest things to kick. And YouTube...

OpenStreetMap had solid data, but my periodic attempts at finding a good app haven't been successful.

Have you tried OSMand (https://osmand.net/). It is not very pretty, but I definitly love the "offline" feature and bicycle maps.

Re: No to Chrome

#52

Post by donaltroddyn » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:30 PM UTC

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #25

Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway. For me, Google Maps and Waze are the hardest things to kick. And YouTube...

In terms of browsers, I have moved back to Firefox from Google for my personal/professional browsing, but I have a product that is heavily reliant on Puppeteer and CDP. There are moves towards interoperability in Firefox, but that's my current blocker.

Re: No to Chrome

#53

Post by tomaszs » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:30 PM UTC

Less Google, more internet. Simple as that

Re: No to Chrome

#54

Post by y4mi » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:32 PM UTC

delosII wrote: post #31

qxnqd wrote: post #16

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Then go with Brave. They stripped out the Google bits, and they won't remove support for the current uBlock Origin ad blocker.

Plus,[0]Brave is going to block [1]CNAME Cloaking first-party trackers, AFAIK no other browser, not[2]add-on, has or plan to have such blocking capabilities. [0] https://imgur.com/a/4DdMh7X [1] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21604825 [2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=21582698

It also sells your eyeballs by allowing certain adds after they've been paid.

It's basically racketeering.

If you're keen on using chromium with manifest v2 add-ons, Vivaldi and Microsoft edge are both options to keep in mind.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by reportgunner » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:37 PM UTC

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #25

Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway. For me, Google Maps and Waze are the hardest things to kick. And YouTube...

Try blocking all images on Youtube so you won't see thumbnails. It helps a ton.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by S_A_P » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:37 PM UTC

thejohnconway wrote: post #17

jmstfv wrote: post #15

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I was using Safari up until they have yanked support for extensions. The web is unusable, outright hostile place without a proper script blocker. I can tolerate a lot of things, but browsing the web without uBlockOrigin isn't one of them.

But Safari still supports extensions, surely? I’m using it with extensions, there are not stories I can see about them removing support, and their Développement pages are still up.

More specifically, they blocked extensions that work a certain way. The deal breaker for me was when uBlock origin was no longer able to run. I immediately switched to Firefox and Brave.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by glenstein » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:39 PM UTC

michaelbrooks wrote: post #40

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #25

Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway. For me, Google Maps and Waze are the hardest things to kick. And YouTube...

I wish someone could create a viable YouTube competitor, seems like there's no one that has succeeded just yet.

In the meantime you can use invidio.us, which scrapes youtube, and lets you 'subscribe' and create playlists without having an account directly on youtube. NewPipe is an app for getting youtube without the youtube. And PeerTube is still young, but a place to check out and get involved with, if you want to see an alternative succeed.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by Grue3 » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:41 PM UTC

mc32 wrote: post #46

Doctor_Fegg wrote: post #42

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Once you've kicked the car-driving habit, kicking Google Maps is easy...

People need wayfinding regardless of how you get around.

Yeah, Google Maps is surprisingly good when you are on a foreign trip and need to find which bus you need to take to get somewhere. There are probably better country-specific apps to do the same, but GM works in all sorts of countries like Hungary or Japan.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by jeremejevs » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:43 PM UTC

lallysingh wrote: post #48

ropiwqefjnpoa wrote: post #25

Even if you have no issue with Google, this is still a good idea to encourage competition. Honestly, Chrome is not as good as it used to be anyway. For me, Google Maps and Waze are the hardest things to kick. And YouTube...

OpenStreetMap had solid data, but my periodic attempts at finding a good app haven't been successful.

https://maps.me/ is a pretty mainstream option.

Re: No to Chrome

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Post by mar77i » Fri, Dec 06, 2019, 12:43 PM UTC

jpkeisala wrote: post #34

I wonder as being privacy focused, why did they not put Brave as recommended browser instead of Firefox?

You just reminded me of that one argument I've heard about two decades back. That if "you pirate Windows, you still kind of buy their product". The rationale of notochrome might be along these lines: If you use chromium, aren't you banking off of technology that is, in this sense, Google's?

But here's the thing, I think you have a point, as far as it's a useful browser technology and open source, I can see about as little a problem as you.