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Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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My guess is “typing stuff into a website using chrome” which I guess elementary isn’t a terrible choice.

I do development on my elementary OS machine.

Does elementary still return their release codename instead of the base ubuntu release for `lsb_release -cs` in shell?

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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I have the exact opposite experience - the microphone doesn't work, everything is incredibly slow, my SO is buying a Windows 10 licence this christmas. It's a shame, the user was just fine with Cinnamon on Debian 5 years ago, but that machine and software is no longer good enough.

Just FYI, if you have to buy Windows, you can get a working license key from eBay for <$5 (I've used three different keys from different sellers with no issues).

Just because it's 'working' doesn't mean it's legitimate.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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I hope the ui not built with vala

I am sad they didn't decide to build it with Objective C. It would have made sense given Objective C could work well with GTK, and Apples devs would have felt half at home. Swift would be cool nowadays. https://rhx.github.io/SwiftGtk/ New apps in the Pantheon system could I guess be written in any language.

Except that is hardly any usable Objective-C tooling outside Apple platforms.

GCC is stuck on a pseudo Objective-C 2.0 support.

clang does support the basic stuff, but there are no libraries.

Yeah, there is GNUstep, but it is like stuck on Pather level compatibility or something like that.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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One of the best things about macOS is the special character inputs, which is one place I think Apple has outshone their competitors for a while. Even if Elementary doesn’t introduce the same keybindings it would be nice to have some set up automatically without having to fiddle with the compose key settings. It’s a very common UX issue imho and also an area where you can easily “beat Windows”

Special characters through the keyboard like these? ł€æßðđŧŋ«»¢“”←ħn↓ĸ→ø Those are input from just pressing ALT(right) + The € is ALTgr + e. ¢ is ALTgr + SHIFT + e.

I'm not sure what GP means by special characters, but I use fedora workstation 30 for my day to day life and I can attest that Arabic and Chinese input are absolute garbage compared to OS X.

Arabic key layout is different (which fine, OS X uses something non-standard anyways), but makes it absolutely impossible to customize it. Text boxes frequently jumble themselves up with left/right mixed input, while OS X handles this as expected.

Chinese input is slightly better, as you don't have to deal with order wonkiness. But pinyin input is halfhearted at best, and requires a bunch of qol changes.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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Linux has 3 keybinding schemes among which you can choose: emacs, vim and cua (what IBM introduced some years later, ctrl+c etc.). I don't see why introducing a fourth one would help? The main reason you can't simply flick a global switch between those three but have to do it per app seems to be the license of GNU readline.

Care to recommend a virtual terminal client app that supports Emacs keybindings well? Preferably available from Ubuntu 'apt'.

Well... emacs? :D

Seriously, though: emacs has several terminal emulators built in like ansi-term, comint, and eshell.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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The majority of Linux distros are just forks of other major distros with swapped apps/DEs, so no need to expect magic. Elementary definitely has a nicer software center UI and I personally love their terminal application more than others (even though I currently use Kubuntu). Many people like it because it reminds them of macOS, even though you don't. And you're kind of right about GTK, but elementaryOS uses the Pant…

Unfortunately, at least when I last tried during Loki, it's also extremely limited. I couldn't even install Firefox. Software in general seems to be limited solely to their bespoke storefront, which I'm not opposed to on principle, but (at the time anyway) it was pretty limited.

That’s odd. Have Firefox happily installed on Juno, and the latest version has Flatpack support built-in. Anything else has always been a PPA away.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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I installed this on my XPS 13 this morning, and it's really nice. It has a lot of overall polish that most DE's are missing, it looks and feels cohesive. It installed without any issues, and I had no problem with my Ubuntu-leaning dotfiles. I will probably keep this for the near future, it's very pleasant.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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The new greeter experience looks cool, but who the heck has multiple users on their machine anymore? This is a completely useless component to the OS.

A computer shared by a family is not uncommon. You don't use it doesn't mean no one uses it.

Re: Elementary OS 5.1 Hera

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post #123

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One of the best things about macOS is the special character inputs, which is one place I think Apple has outshone their competitors for a while. Even if Elementary doesn’t introduce the same keybindings it would be nice to have some set up automatically without having to fiddle with the compose key settings. It’s a very common UX issue imho and also an area where you can easily “beat Windows”

Special characters through the keyboard like these? ł€æßðđŧŋ«»¢“”←ħn↓ĸ→ø Those are input from just pressing ALT(right) + The € is ALTgr + e. ¢ is ALTgr + SHIFT + e.

I don't know if it's what the OP meant, but on macOS you can hold a letter key, and it will pop up a little dialog with a bunch of similar characters (hold 'n' and chose from 'n' with various diacritical marks), and you can just press the corresponding number key to choose it. I'ts not as fast as a dedicated key shortcut if you're constantly using the same character, but it's far easier if you're only occasionally using various characters and don't want to remember different shortcuts.
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